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 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 13:57 

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Islam is a religion of peace. Ichabod.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives. ... 17-11.html

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 05:19 

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@ Guest

I'm sorry if my opinion upsets you, that was not my aim.
No apology required. You have a right to say your piece. We disagree. No big deal. Its just that the subject is starting to make me ill. Physically. Whether I'm simply projecting religion on to your arguments or not, I literally start to feel sick when I contemplate religion for too long at one sitting. Seriously. Religion is deeply troubling to me. Christians have their version of it. The secular world has its. Politics has its. The Muslims have theirs. Suddenly they all fused together for me in this discussion and I had a reaction.

I have to do other things for a while. If there's anything else to say, I'll say it later.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 04:09 

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@Guest

No human other than Christ is exempt from arrogance, but that is not a licence to make arrogance our policy. And we haven't had a leader with integrity for at least the past 40 years. They have all sold us out to globalism.

Just because our leaders do not respect the law does not give us the right to disregard it. That isn't religion, that is recognition of divine establishment on a personal level. Until the gov't implements its 'Crystal Nacht' or until the the Constitution is officially dismantled, it is the law that we are to respect, especially when choosing a leader. Remember how Daniel conducted himself.

If the continuity of our nation depends on the growth of our believers (and it does), then it doesn't matter who gets elected; but how we vote reflects how we individually apply doctrine. That's between the individual and God.

Nevertheless, remember that we are to respect the law, and resist the temptation to elect arrogance as our policy. We've had 40+ years of career Crucaders in this country, I don't have to choose another one.
So Trump has arrogant policy? Is that what you are saying? Specifically, are you referring to his desire to ban Muslims from entering the country? If so, then that in itself is pretty arrogant, considering the circumstances. Every nation has a right to defend itself, its borders, and to regulate who and what it allows within its jurisdiction. Period. Muslims, nor anyone else is guaranteed entrance or have a right to enter. Especially in a time of war. Our laws, including article 6, only apply to citizens. Also, the argument can be made that no Muslim has a right to live in this country if they follow Islam to the letter. Sharia is seditious. Sharia is treasonous. The Constitution cannot survive in any form when we are chalk full of Muslims. Its impossible due to the warring nature of their religion. The Founding Fathers didn't plan for their ancestors to be such raving idiots as to DEMAND these violent hordes be let in. And honestly, who in the last 200 hundred years has planned for that kind of idiocy? Too bad the founding fathers weren't psychic so they could have incorporated into the document something specifically about Muslims. Hell, I'm living in this time, and I still can't believe these barbarians are being imported as fast as possible by our government and the useful idiots in the press. To allow more of them in is out of line for a patriot and treasonous in and of itself. Your comparison to the Crusades is way off. This is not about capturing Jerusalem for the Pope, this is about the total destruction of our country. We are potentially being invaded by people who want to overthrow us and kill/rape/convert us. If you are objecting to policy that could stop them, then that is your political correctness disguised as doctrine. There is nowhere in God's word where a nation must insist on being murdered and call it obedience to doctrine. If anything, our national suicide is our punishment, not our duty.

Excuse me. I have to go vomit now. Seriously, this is too sickening. Religion and political correctness is my kryptonite. I'll do 1:John 1:9 and get back to you later on this maybe, if there is anything new on the horizon. But I didn't think there was anything left to say 10 posts ago. I'm done chewing the cud. A man's got to know his limitations. lol


 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 02:24 

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I think we should vote based on doctrinal standards, not politics:

Based on Bible doctrine, I have to vote on who will maintain the sovereignty of my nation and uphold the rule of law. That narrows it way down in this election. Internationalism is satanic. American politicians of both parties have either been in bed with Satan on this issue, flirting with him like a shameful hussy, or willfully blind to their responsibility to maintain our sovereignty during most of my life time. They are the traitors, and anyone who cares to look will know who they are.

1) Arrogance is a deal breaker. Even if it is out with good intentions it WILL backfire, and USA can't afford that.

Wow. You've just made illegitimate 99.99999999 of all human government since the beginning of time, based on your personal judgement of one man. I guess King David was completely without arrogance in his reign? Or did God's grace cover him and Israel, despite David's foibles? Trump is no David, but neither is America biblical Israel. And how arrogant have our leaders been up to this point? Arrogant enough to ignore the issues that concern Americans for at least the last 40 years? Your arguments smell like religion to me.

2) As believers, we are commanded to respect the law of our land. That legal system happens to be the Constitution. The Constitution is a legal system based on liberty, not morality. Therefore we need a candidate that is most likely to preserve and obey our legal system, and hopefully clean it up. That means no Patriot Acts of any kind, no wars without Congressional approval, no bargaining with enemies, no expansion of socialist programs, no illegal immigration, and no attacks on any form of religion.

The Constitution is no longer in effect. Sorry. Maybe 10 to 15% is still operational, a few parts and pieces from the bill of rights, but even that is in a watered down form. If the Constitution is still the law of the land, then there is no one left in this country who is not a traitor. Based on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, this country is not like others: we are the government, the final authority en mass, especially when our elected officials fail to live up to their contract. But we threw that authority away for television, video games, materialism, and pornography---just to name a few of our national distractions. We have already abdicated our country in its traditional form. We are in flux now. Will God's grace prevail now or is it total destruction? That is the question, at least to my way of thinking. I know that these kinds of statements will not be believed and/or just scoffed at. That's too bad. I have no need to prove it. We're living it. But whether the Constitution is in effect or not, this is still our country. Rome still belonged to the Romans after the fall of the Republic. And many of the basic rights of the Romans were sustained after the Republic went away. And for a great while, Christians flourished in the empire. Was the Republic superior? Sure. Is our Republic superior? Sure. But you don't always get what you want. You have to adapt to the time you're in with a doctrine based life.

By that standard, that limits us to Huckabee or Rand Paul. Rand's position on Israel is unclear, and Huckabee might be another John McCain when it comes to ISIS.

We've discussed Rand in another thread, I won't recap. Huckabee is too religious and desperate to be liked. He's a nice man, sure. But nice don't mean shit. All the rest of them, except for three candidates, possibly four if I include Rand, want to be politically correct. Political correctness is socialist/suicidal/Satanic slop for the great American trough, otherwise known as your television. Beware.

So, what are we to do? Compromise our integrity in hopes that one of these fools have the right kinda of poker face and a full house in hand?

lol. Integrity? Again, I smell religion. We should do our duty before God. I'll take His grace over maintaining my personal integrity any day. It is enough that I am honest before Him. My opinion of myself or other humans doesn't really matter.

No. If there is no one willing to uphold the entire law, then they're all criminals in the making. It won't make a bit of difference.

Sorry, whatever happens, the United Boy Scouts of America is not about to be reborn. Nor has it ever existed. You are applying Christian standards on the secular and unbelievers in our national life. Confusing.

Its all or nothing. If there is no Constitutional integrity, then I don't vote. If that's the case, then so be it, Hillary can get the job for all I care.

USA will either fall or rebound, but either way, it will be very ugly.

No, enough mature Christians will either stay the course or we will be destroyed. The country is at our mercy.
My apologies if some of the things have come across as harsh. I'm just being honest with you. I don't have much time and can't really believe I'm still commenting on this thread anyway. lol

TTYL

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 23:24 

Replies: 86
Views: 110307


Let's just force a burqa on them and call it a wrap. lol

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 21:59 

Replies: 86
Views: 110307


Yes. They are all childish. The world is childish. Most Christians are childish. Its like millions upon millions of babies shaking their rattles on the biggest battlefield imaginable. Childishness is the language the world speaks today, so, regrettably, it should not be a factor in how we decide to vote today. Maybe 20 years ago, 16 years ago, it was still a factor. But not today. We are going to be raped and slaughtered in our own streets, like Europe, unless somebody today does something about it and takes a stand. All the advisers in the world will not give the next president a sense of purpose or a set of testicles. If that is too crude for you, I'm sorry. These are crude times. I cannot discuss a dirty lavatory with you without a few choice words. Language is for accurate communication first, poetry second. Trump's willingness to win a pissing contest, especially when, if he doesn't, the press and his fellow Republicans will relentlessly beat him to death with it all week, is not grounds for being critical of him. He is a fighter. This country, in its present form, will not survive unless we get someone in there who is willing to scrap. Someone who is willing to take on their own party, their own government bureaucracy, the enemies who have already infiltrated, and the world at large. No matter what happens from here on out, things are going to get increasingly ugly in this country. Our destruction will be ugly; our reconstruction, if possible, will be ugly. And, in that context, millions of Americans are actually thrilled that DT is willing to roll up his sleeves and get ugly about it. Many, like me, cannot remember anything happening in this country the last 40 years that the average working person or business person really wanted or agreed to. The government just did it to us. Now many people in the government and media want to import thousands of these backward killers and rapists. So Americans are pissed, fed up, and want someone to stop this onslaught. They would not even be behind Donald as loyally if he didn't know how to verbally assault someone. Strange times, indeed.

Don't think I have anything else to add at this time. We disagree about DT. That's our right.

But I'll leave you with this. Even a lot of blacks and other minorities are backing Trump and leaving the Democrats in droves right now because of the stark alternative of his message. Don't know if you've seen these two ladies before, but if you haven't a feel for what's really going on out there, they illustrate the anger perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iexWoMynU4

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 20:20 

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Can't get link to load. Is there an alternate address?
You might try this, if you're still interested.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09 ... op-debate/

In case you can't access it, I will explain, though it really defeats my original intent. My reply to your concern for Trump's behavior was a very short piece of footage of Jeb, who stands at 6'3, already the tallest candidate in the field, stepping up on his tip toes for a photo op at a previous debate a few months back. This is the only really good footage of it because it includes the split second that Jeb actually takes a quick, nervous glance at DT, then steps back and adjusts himself to make sure he is standing side by side with him, when attempting to make himself look a head taller. That is 6 year old behavior, at best. But I didn't post it as a reply to make fun of Jeb. He is what he is, for whatever reason that is. I posted it, hoping for a pithy way of demonstrating to you that your expectations of these candidates may work well on paper, but is fundamentally at odds with the reality here on the ground. The world is where it is, and your desire for great websites, a hair style you can approve of, or college style debating techniques from 30 years ago is completely irrelevant. Any candidate that wins or is successful must, to some degree, speak the world's language today. And that language should not be held against them by us. I wouldn't care if George Washington buggered his troops on the sly at Valley Forge. Its none of my business what George got up to. But there was no doubt that he was the right man for the right time. That is what you and I have to determine---who is that man today? If you are going to judge these candidates by who conforms to your own personal norms, standards, and sense of style, then you're dead in the water when it comes to making the correct decision. What does our country need? What does Israel need? What does the world need? Somebody we can feel good about or somebody who has the goods and can deliver them? I want the person who can deliver the goods, even if that person comes in a package that doesn't get invited to my afternoon tea. In the same way I'm grateful my employer doesn't really want to break bread with me, go bowling with me, or constantly send me funny emails that I feel obligated to respond to simply because he's my employer. But he knows I can get the job done and continues to have confidence in me because I deliver.

So much for pith. I wish the video had loaded for you. lol

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 15:03 

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https://vine.co/v/eU5PIqgq2I1

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 03:52 

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Article 6 only applies to current US citizens, and it is only to hold public office. No one has a right to emigrate to the US and become a citizen, especially during war.

I think America has been infiltrated at the highest levels, so for me, boy scouts need not apply for POTUS. It will take a real sonofabitch to undue what's been done, to keep America even remotely in a form we recognize. It might even take Caesar. This sums up my position on the matter.

I would love to be wrong.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Trump Speech to Republican Jewish Coalition

Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 04:50 

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Yeah, I read that article this morning. Now the Republican establishment is talking about a brokered convention to get rid of him. If that happens and Trump is unfairly put in the trash bin, that is the end of the GOP. It will go the way of the Whigs, and quickly. There will be no time to organize another party either with the Clintons and socialists breathing down our necks. The states would probably break up, go their own way. I know this sounds far fetched, but the establishment boys in the back room do not seem to understand just how pissed off, disgusted, and broke the people in this country are. Hell, millions of people in half the states petitioned to be allowed secession when Obama was reelected. This would be 100 times worse.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 04:39 

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How much you wanna bet these guys are still Muslims. More than that, I bet they are on somebody's payroll. Probably George Soros, the same billionaire troublemaker that funds BLMatter. If this kind of thing starts popping up everywhere, then for sure it is being bankrolled. Then the media will bandy about the term "radicalized Christians." See? Violence is not a Muslim problem---its a radicalization problem. Can happen to anybody. lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C31Iyezgro0

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 20:57 

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Which makes Trump the underdog, and virtually guarantees he'll win the election. If somehow he won't be placed on the GOP ticket, I bet money he'll keep running as an independent, and then as a writein he can win.

Mind you, I don't want that. But if the press doesn't calm down, they will find they have just fueled support for the guy, rather than defeated it.
Its bigger than just the press; they are just one tentacle of the octopus. lol. But you're right: everything the press, the GOP establishment, and the administration does to belittle him, only reaffirms to his supporters and to those who are sitting on the fence, that Trump must be the right candidate, because the trust of the general public in those three entities is at an all time low. Again, for me, it only comes down to national sovereignty. I can easily live with a rich carnival barker as president, but I can't tolerate any political hack who wants to hand this country over to a Satanic one world agenda.

Now, on a lighter note. Here's a video of "Darth Trump." It is satire of him, using his own voice and Star Wars footage. It is not pro-Trump by any means, but I laughed until I cried. Have not laughed so hard since I was a kid. Seeing as how you're not a fan, you might get a hoot out of it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_Jdts5rL0

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 20:30 

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Yeah, I got to admit he handles the press well. He's controlling the debate! And they don't even know that!
Well, I think they are just starting to figure it out. Trump has stolen the narrative away from the media, an unforgivable crime in their eyes, and they are out for blood now. They'll throw anyone under the bus to destroy him, even the Jews! This election is like an unveiling of the power structure in this country for the masses. It hurts the eyes and the head, but as a people, we really need to see it all laid bare. We are a constitutional republic. It is our duty, as citizens, to know what's really going on.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 19:47 

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Here's a Jew defending Trump on CNN. The CNN commentator comes back at him in the most vile antisemitic way. She obviously had to work pretty hard to come up with this "angle" on the situation, yet tries to pass her remarks off as casual and off the cuff. Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=199&v=dBYAAj0n-Nw

 Forum: Eschatology   Topic: Turkey as New Rome and Erdogan's speech?

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 17:16 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8sWcgrhas

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 17:07 

Replies: 86
Views: 110307


Here's a video of Trump supporters talking to the press. No matter what you may think of him, Trump has let the proverbial cat out of the bag in this country. For better or worse, things will never be the same. America's great political slumber party is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovAiScng7vg

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Obama pro-Islam quotes

 Post subject: Re: Obama pro-Islam quotes
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 15:21 

Replies: 2
Views: 3755


This information has been out there for a while, but that was a very good summary. A "greatest hits" so to speak.

 Forum: Movies   Topic: Time Bandits

 Post subject: Time Bandits
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 05:38 

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I love how Time Bandits portrayed both God and the Devil. Not because they are accurate, just because they are funny. God is dry. The Devil is a maniac obsessed with technology. One of my favorite movie lines of all time comes from Satan who complains about the Supreme Being creating 43 species of parrots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6OKLgLZHFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw9IqUgGlzs

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 04:06 

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@ Guest

Well, I'm not necessarily alluding to the end being near, but look at the global situation:

1) Client Nation teetering on the edge of the Fifth Cycle.

2) The threat of a Caliphate to consolidate the Levant and Chaldea.

3) The HQ of that Caliphate setting itself up in Nineveh territory.

Thieme always noted how Satan is constantly trying to stay prepare for the Tribulation, well the activity in Mosul just seems to stand out.

Of course, it all depends on how believers execute the plan of God and how matured the overall body of Christ is.

The activity down here seems to reflect Satan's desperation in the Angelic Conflict...and I do see a frantic sense of desperation in the action of these globalists.
You may be right about this. Its not crazy speculation to me. I mean, the stage is pretty well set for the Trib, and maybe this is just another detail falling into place. As for the globalists, their desperation is very real because all their pet balls of twine are about to come unraveled at once. War is the only way for them (they think) to secure all that they have worked for. Things are really not going according to plan for them. But then, until the Great Tribulation, it never will. The sovereignty of nation states, no matter how watered down, will continue until God calls us home.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 02:38 

Replies: 38
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@ Guest

Yes. WW3 is exactly what I'm thinking too, and like you said, Putin isn't stupid. I don't like Putin, but I respect his tactics.

Putin seems to be throwing a monkey wrench in the NWO crowd because on some level he is a nationalist. He really does love Russia. Does he love her with the love of a KGB agent? I have no idea. lol. But he does seem to want to retain Russia's autonomy from those seeking a one world government with the West at the helm. I don't think Russia and China will ever be as bosom-buddy as they sometimes portray. There is a lot of distrust in Russian-Sino relations, even on their best day. Otherwise, Putin and China would have already teamed up to wipe us out. But this is all in God's hands. WWIII will not happen until He is ready, no matter what Obama is up to.

I think Obama is trying to destroy this country, not simply take it over. Not sure where he plans on running off to once he does, but every step he's taken seems carefully calculated. Not the least bit 'incompetent' in my eyes.

I've been joking for months that when he leaves office he'll direct the pilot of AF1 to drop him off in Iran. lol. But better yet, in his mind, is not to leave office at all. No, Obama is not trying to destroy the country, he is trying to transform it. What better method of consolidation of power in a national entity is there than socialism? Once the country is socialist and its liberty and private enterprise is demolished, it will be much easier to implement the North American Union that the Bush/Clinton team are so fond of, which is just the next stage of consolidation. To form a world empire or global government, consolidation is the key. I can't say the word enough because it is the core principle behind all the paid lackeys and puppets that have held high office for so long. Look very closely at Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi. She has worked for/towards the North American Union through CFR, so Cruz, being a Bushie, is most likely no different. Bush recently came out and said he disliked Cruz, but that was just smoke. Cruz is a dark horse for these people too. Here's two short videos if you are interested in this. Plans for NAU spans all administrations of the last 30 years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mzJro8F44E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGEv-cdoms

One thing that has my attention (and this is beyond geopolitics) is; Why is ISIS so interested Mosul????

I'll drop a hint at the risk of sounding like a fool:
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Zeph 2:13 And he will stretch out his hand against the north, and destroy Assyria; and will make Nineveh a desolation, and dry like a wilderness.
14 And flocks shall lie down in the midst of her, all the beasts of the nations: both the cormorant and the bittern shall lodge in the upper lintels of it; their voice shall sing in the windows; desolation shall be in the thresholds: for he shall uncover the cedar work.
15 This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly, that said in her heart, I am, and there is none beside me: how is she become a desolation, a place for beasts to lie down in! every one that passeth by her shall hiss, and wag his hand.

Isaiah 47:7 And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.
8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:
9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

I honestly have no idea how that may be related to ISIS, as the Church Age could continue for another 2000 years if the Father wills it. Too many unknowns for me to speculate. One thing is for sure, everything is set in place for the end of the Age. But that's been the case before, too.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 01:18 

Replies: 38
Views: 45374


We know he could care less about ISIS, so what are they really there for?

My best guess is to start WWIII, but Putin is not taking the bait. This all goes back to what I was saying earlier in the presidential thread: 'Consolidation' is the key word. The powers that be are trying to consolidate their power in the US. There is no better way to accomplish that than for the US to be at war from within and at war from without. Watch what is happening in Turkey closely. Turkey shot down a Russian plane. Turkey is part of NATO. If Russia attacks Turkey, that is grounds for WWIII. You combine that with a terrorist threat domestically, and you have a perfect recipe for suspension of elections and martial law. The bought and sold establishment in this country are literally shitting in their pants over Trump. Remember, Trump was one of them and he knows where all the bodies are buried, so to speak. Hell, we've got big Bush donors saying that if Trump gets the nomination then they will support Hillary! If that doesn't spell it out for everyone, nothing will.

This is my best theory. I always hesitate to spell these things out, because few people can see it. There's a lot of other roads people need to cross before they can see where I'm coming from.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 23:49 

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Yes, I agree. And I was hesitant to raise the subject myself, not wanting to get into a huge speculative debate, but it just keeps happening, and each time it seems to get sloppier.

Like I said, this time it was the two eye witnesses contradicting the official story. That's pretty significant. If we are to understand the situation and what will transpire of it, all possibilities should be taken into consideration. Not saying Islams isn't a threat, but these people aren't exactly marching across the ocean on camels with sling shots. Something is up.
Well, here's some speculation that's fuel for the fire. The shooters were not labelled as terrorist by the administration or the authorities until they could be labelled as ISIS. You see, the narrative is that Muslims are not prone to terrorism but ISIS is. If it was a staged shooting, or a real shooting done by black ops mercenaries, they declared the perps "ISIS" only once they got their patsies into place. This would explain the discrepancies in the first witness testimonies and fill in the holes that you are finding in the official story. Is this how it went down? At this time, I couldn't possibly say. But nothing would surprise me, because I know we've been infiltrated on the highest levels. There's a report going around right now that there are 72 people working at Homeland Security who are on the "no fly" list. l mean, wtf? lol. It boggles the skull.

In related news, DT has just declared that he wants a moratorium on any new Muslim immigrants into the country, illegal or otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fvAx6bgGlg

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 19:53 

Replies: 38
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing in the crisis actor stuff in exception for the Boston marathon bombing. I saw some really odd stuff there that just doesn't make sense. For that very reason, I try not to look too deeply are get into political polarity, but every now and then something really stands out:

9/11: Tower 7

Batman shooting in Colorado: Conflicting eye witness reports about an extra shooter.

That's about all I can remember for now. I do see recurrent motives: Instill paranoia between classes and races, instill a fear of armed citizens, use public rage to justify endless proxy wars.
I'm not going to comment on 9/11 or the Batman shooting. Not because I disagree, but because I don't want to get bogged down by the subject. It really is a never ending rabbit hole, littered with disinfo, antisemitism and all sorts of other unsavory droppings.

I think about 2/3 of the crisis actor stuff is just hysteria and paranoia. But there's about a 1/3 of it that really does seem to happen. And the media has been faking stories for a while now. Hell, its as old as time itself. They're just getting bolder about it and finding new ways to do it. Ironically, they do not seem more accomplished at it, as it is easier to see through it than ever. Or, because of internet, we have become more sophisticated and can spot it more easily. Do you remember the Dateline story from 1992 that faked a story about General Motors? lol. That's a while back but they still got busted for it and GM sued.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-02-10/ ... _gm-pickup

But I think you are wise to avoid spending too much time on the subject. Its enough to know that the media has its own agenda, and they will do anything they can do, including the use of fakery, to push that agenda. And there is no amount of information gleaned from the Devil's world that equals even a thimble full of the Word.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 16:52 

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ha ha ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUOtKfOpAAY

 Forum: Eschatology   Topic: Angelic Appeal Trial

 Post subject: Re: Angelic Appeal Trial
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 15:11 

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Whoa. Just saw this, don't have much time, so I'll be brief.

God didn't need a trial. God knows all facts ahead of time, before time, and on time, and as the perfect, rightful judge, He does not require juries or "evidence" to pass a sentence.

But, apparently, the elect angels and we do need a trial. This trial is for us. Hell, this is for Satan and the fallen angels too. I mean, God could have created me as a soul in perpetual stand by mode, and know exactly what I would do and why I would do it if I were to be incarnated in a human body without actually going through the trouble of letting me be born. God doesn't need that, just like he doesn't need a trial or "evidence" to justify locking someone up. But I need to live my life. I need to make my choices. I need to partake in this trial. God fulfills those needs, and viola! I was born.

Thanks for posting this. This is probably the most nuanced clown act I've ever seen, but it made me think.
IMHO...

The elect angels would to this day have remained perpetually confused about God, if God did not resolve this conflict they had. God has no conflict of his own understanding. God is now resolving it for the sake of men and angels with tangible evidence as found in fallen men that is displayed as evidence before He will be executing the actual judgment. God is doing this with evidence that angels can easily relate to and identify with. That evidence being? Fallen man. Men who reflect the same nature as fallen angels.

After all, God could not have simply judged Satan and have the faithful angels be at peace with God..Why? For,it all began with a private thought held in the heart of Lucifer. "I will make myself like the Most High.' No one else could see that thought, let alone understand the implications because of their state of innocence.

Here is an attempt to explain a part of the resolve God brought about:

Jesus warned that if a man lusts in his heart towards a woman? That in God's eyes, that man had committed an actual act. And, that if a man has a malicious anger in his heart towards another? That he in effect had murdered that person. Link that with what Satan desired? It was such a desire of the heart. One that had no angel had a point of reference to define at the time it was desired. But, God had a plan to take care of that area of angelic ignorance.

Enter the fall of Adam.. After man fell Satan's desire towards the Lord was able to be displayed through fallen men before the angels. It can be clearly seen when Absalom pursued his father the righteous king David. Pursued in his desire to usurp David's throne. Absalom's rebellion was a matter of assassination and take over in Absalom's heart.

Now, when Lucifer had his evil desire in his heart? There was no such thing as death to be known to the angels. For, nothing yet was fallen. There was no death to be witnessed to by the angels, let alone murder out of envy. Evidence of such envy and murder to be tangibly manifested was first displayed with Cain and Able. Evidence A.

The elect angels who would otherwise remain confused about God were being presented living metaphors as evidence. Evidence as found in examples of various fallen men. By means of what they observed in the sinful acts and evil of men angels were developing a frame of reference in order to understand why God had to judge Lucifer for "just a thought." For those evil thoughts of the fallen angels were now being outwardly acted upon and manifested by fallen men in a tangible way for angels to see in the courtroom of life.

Lucifer's desire in his heart wanted to assassinate the Lord and to take His place. "I will make myself like the Most High." It was all about Satan's desire to assassinate and take over. Satan was in no mood to share the Lord's position of the throne. Therefore.. (in his heart) Satan was a murderer *from the beginning.*

That is why Jesus said Satan was a murder from the beginning. It was from the very beginning of his own fall. Satan had desired to murder the Lord of Creation and to take over His throne. At that point, only God could understand the implications of Satan's desire towards the Lord... and that judgment included the angels who shared in Satan's desire to see Lucifer as the Most High.

How could God reveal to the angels a reality they had no point of reference for? Murder? What's that!?

Satan did God a big favor by bringing on the fall of man. For, from that point on, God had His perfect evidence that He needed to make it clear to all the angels as to why God had judged Satan and his angels. Evidence on display through fallen man's actions. Sinful and evil actions to show angels something tangible that they could identify with. Identify as to agree that God was totally justified in Hid judgment of Satan and his angels.

Man's fall that was brought on by Satan's evil seduction. But Satan's deception of the woman was actually doing God a big favor. For, by being the tempter, Satan heralded in the defective actions in fallen men. Men who have since been displaying attitudes and actions that reveal what it was in the fallen angels and Satan's heart from the beginning of his murderous 'mental attitude sin.'

Satan and his angels had evil thoughts that were not originally able to be actualized and understood by seeing the outcome of the desire. For they had no means to manifest the goal of their desire. For before his fall? Satan had been living in a perfect environment. Therefore, Satan was not cognizant of what murder was. Just the same, God in His omniscience fully understood Satan's inexcusable desire towards the Lord. An inexcusable desire towards the Beloved second member of the Trinity.

The elect angels now understand by means of centuries of displaying of the depravity of man what Satan and his angels desired (and now desire) would produce if allowed to. Their confusion about God ended and was made possible only because of their observation of fallen man's sins and acts of evil... Thanks to Satan ushering in the fall of those to be used against him!

The elect angels now have learned and know that Satan was without excuse for what he desired of the Lord. All the while, Satan is getting his nose rubbed into the very thing he caused... That being. Men who the Bible calls "children of the Devil." For all fallen men will reflect in their volition and actions the wide variety of expressions of fallen angels, be it human good, or evil violence...

Case closed.
Adam and Eve could have fallen without Satan's help. It might have taken a million years, but they were capable all by themselves. Though they were lower than angels, they still had a limited but perfect knowledge with which to work. And had Christ continued walking with them in the garden, more perfect knowledge would have been imparted to them in that context. The same is true of the holy angels. Satan's treachery was not needed or desired by God to teach the angels or us, more. The angels and Adam and Eve in their original state were not confused. Everyone knew what God was saying.

Experience is not the great teacher, God's word is. Experience is the great reinforcement of what is already known. Experience without knowledge is just mindless, pointless, filler. Experience is an opportunity to build on what you already know, as in a drill. You know the drill, or otherwise you couldn't do it, but repeating it and repeating it in a multiplicity of scenarios lets you carry it out more efficiently, aids you in doing it on command in future, helps you understand why it is important you know it in the first place. The holy angels are not learning that God is full of grace by watching this warfare and trial unfold down here, they are learning just how full of grace He is. At the beginning it was about grace. At the end it is about grace. And grace all the way through. God's glory on display.

Satan got a trial because he requested one. Grace. The holy angels are learning just how right their initial decision was to take God at His word and not follow Satan. Grace. Adam and Eve were created sinless and perfect. Grace. After the fall, they were offered a way back home. Grace. The Church Age is grace on top of grace on top of grace, its members even becoming higher than the angels through marriage with Jesus Christ. (After the Fall of Satan and Co., the holy angels could no longer be a perfect number anyway, hence their place in the pecking order had to be taken by someone.) In every stage of the trial we have hard, cold realities to face: the ramifications of imperfect decisions made by imperfect man being answered at every turn by God with grace, grace, grace. It is a drill. You must know a taste of God's grace, whether angel or human, to be saved, to even wear a uniform. Grace is a known factor, just to get in the door. But the trial is demonstrating to all just how important that one basic thing already known (GRACE) really is, and thus, how much God really is who He says He is. Satan, his angels, and fallen humanity can only come to know one thing out of this trial: Grace. Until they do that, they will fail to really understand what they are now experiencing. For everything that comes to us is by God's grace. Even hell.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 14:35 

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This second eye witness seems to corroborated the first witness' account.
https://youtu.be/s45OeXNRZng

I don't know about you guys, but I think something funny is going on here. I'm reluctant to trust the media at this point. I'll be praying for the truth to surface if this does happen to be a "burning Reichstag".
I do not know all the details about this shooting. I used to keep track of these kinds of things and try to put the puzzle together, until I discovered the term "crises actors" which totally muddied the waters for me to the point that I quit looking as long and as hard at these kinds of incidents. Disinformation is so thick these days, it is difficult to piece things together if you really start concentrating on and analyzing the "known facts." What I tell people is that I don't necessarily believe the MSM and I don't necessarily disbelieve them either. They are just not trustworthy enough for me to take too seriously, and even when they are telling the truth, their commentary is like the twittering of the birds. If you are not familiar with the term crisis actors, look into it. You may never look at the news the same way again. Brainout pointed out the Pallywood aspect of news coverage that has antisemitic bent in another thread. The same kind of thing can and does happen here in the States. It is an attempt by government contracted media to influence the national narrative. Understanding what the narrative is, is more important than knowing the "details" when it comes to deciphering their garbage. For example, there was a mass shooting in New Orleans just a week before San Bernardino. I don't think anyone was killed but there was something like 17 wounded. Yet there was hardly any mention of it in the national press because it didn't fit the narrative. Would the media love to spin the San B shooting as a way to strip Americans of their firearms? Yes, that's the story they want. Who owns most of the firearms in this country? WASPs. However, the New Orleans shooter was not white. That didn't fit their narrative, so there was no obsessive reporting over it. What are the true identities of the San Bernardino shooters? Who knows, I tend to believe they actually were disgruntled Muslims, but it looks to me like the narrative got "out of control" for a moment, which happens quite often. Major media outlets are in the hands of just a few people. A free and independent press really only exists online anymore, and it, like any other human endeavor, is far from perfect.

But, fortunately for us, God is perfect. I talk to Him about the news a lot. lol

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 00:24 

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Views: 45374


BREAKING NEWS: American Muslim Man Tries To Hijack Plane And Crash It Down, Screaming, “I Want To Meet Allah”, Two Christian Men Then Tackle Him Down And Beat Him Up

http://shoebat.com/2015/12/06/muslim-ma ... at-him-up/

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Full Interview with Holocaust Survivor, Theodore Haas.

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 00:01 

Replies: 0
Views: 3342


http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/survive.htm

 Forum: Islam   Topic: Three things many (probably) don't know about Islam

Posted: 06 Dec 2015, 04:58 

Replies: 2
Views: 3621


I was visiting a friend today and this very subject came up. She didn't know it. I tried to explain it. She doesn't believe me because she works with a few Muslim doctors. Can't wrap her head around it. Such 'nice' people, she said. I told her 'nice' is overrated. 'Nice' is the minimum. The shooter in San Bernardo---he was nice until he wasn't anymore. It will probably take a year or two, then she might believe me. But probably not. lol

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 05:47 

Replies: 38
Views: 45374


So it came about when Moses held his hand up, that Israel prevailed, and when he let his hand down, Amalek prevailed. But Moses' hands were heavy. Then they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat on it; and Aaron and Hur supported his hands, one on one side and one on the other. Thus his hands were steady until the sun set. So Joshua overwhelmed Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.…

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 05:07 

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Oh yeah, I didn't mean to imply sit on my hands while some act of violence is going on in my periphery. The thing is, to prepare God's Way, not our way. Koran portrays Allah as some weak guy who needs your help or bids you fight as a test of your loyalty.

The real God is not like that. If you are to fight, you trained for YEARS prior, and it's a THINKING fight, not physical. For the front lines are the soul (Ephesians 5-6 and 2Cor10:5 description), not the world.

Now, when physical action is required, due to the prior thinking training, the physical action will be tuned. There is in some situations a need for prior physical training as well. As RFG we don't have much physical to do.

For our job, is first line of defense so that the boys and girls don't have to get in uniform...

Even in Israel's day the Battle is the Lord's. Idea for the conquered people to know GOD not the Israelites, did it. So the hard thinking results in a lifestyle before God, and PRAYER is where that thinking shows up. Deft prayer.
Agreed. Prayer based on learning doctrine is always first, and primary, and continual. Obviously, we Christians in America have failed in this regard. Things are physical right now, and if trends continue, will get hotter and hotter. Not just in theory and conjecture, but down at the 7/11 while filling up your Big Gulp. Christians need to get ready right now, if they haven't previously, for all contingencies. Doctrine first, everything else a distant second. But that distant second is more likely than ever before.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 04:49 

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How many Reichstag fires will it take for America to implode and be reborn into an Islamo-Nazi wonderland?
The extremists are just the puppets. Its the puppeteers that I'm more concerned with. I wonder if they might try to suspend elections? Not that they have too, they have the electoral college and electronic ballots to cook books with.

Things are really heating up fast.
I agree. Throw a bunch of pitbulls into the play ground, the kids are going to get hurt. The dogs must be dealt with, but they're not the main problem. Its those who unleashed them that should be blamed. But the ultimate blame is upon the heads of US Christians for not faithfully learning Bible doctrine. We must pray about these things and keep grounded in God's word.

I think the reason the president increasingly looks sick on tv is because he's not confident he can suspend elections. The FBI just came out today contradicting the administration by saying that the San Bernardino shooting was due to terrorism. This seems like a small thing on the surface, but it speaks volumes about whats going on behind the scenes. Also, the US public, including state governments and local police departments are not near as brainwashed as they had hoped. Also, nobody planned on Trump. He is acting like a lightning rod to render the press and political correctness passe; indeed, he is helping everyone see that political correctness is unpatriotic and downright dangerous. There is a very interesting and volatile convergence of actions and attitudes that are manifesting all at once in this country. Thankfully, we are not Europe. Though we are just boys compared to our forefathers, we are not yet geldings.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 04:33 

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Wow: so the folks the terrorists killed, are not important. So the hundred+ Koranic verses they obeyed to do that, are not important. Worse, if we talk about how the Koran bids the Muslim to do what they did in Paris or San Bernadino, we are the ones deemed guilty?

Yes. Because we've been infiltrated. Even the word "radicalized" in the phrase "radicalized Muslims" is nothing more than an apology; it is not an accusation or simply a descriptive term in the mouths of the press and their fellow travelers. Its apologetics.

Then let's talk a lot. Talk. We just prayed GOD do things. So we don't need to do anything. Talking is enough: stand still and watch the deliverance OF THE LORD...

And see what all the antisemites like her, will do with what HE does.

I agree, and am more than happy to be still and watch for the Lord's deliverance, but must add, we are at war right now. As patriots, if presented (by God, I might add) with a hands on situation, we must do our duty. No man worth his salt will look the other way if presented with a situation. If I stumble upon a woman being assaulted or a neighbor being robbed, it is my duty to intervene. If I am sitting in an airplane or a shopping mall and I see some form of terrorism going down, or about to go down, I am in the same position. I was sitting in a restaurant tonight with a friend. While I relaxed and enjoyed my meal, my attitude was that the war is here. I calmly assessed each person in the place and the situations going on around me. I was prepared to act, if necessary. Here's a guy who didn't: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... t-n2088543

Now, if he had of said something, throwing off the brainwashing of white guilt inspired by pinko-commie political correctness, would the attorney general want to prosecute him?


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 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: Sweden

 Post subject: The West vs Islam: Sweden
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 01:59 

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Anyone who keeps abreast of the the European situation knows that France is only exceeded by Sweden in the Islamic strangulation of its traditional European culture. The first Caliphate in Sweden has just been declared:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... ope-threat

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Pallywood

 Post subject: Re: Pallywood
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 01:50 

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Views: 10636


I have just done the same. We shall wait and see.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 01:31 

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Views: 45374


In previous post I linked an article about US attorney general Loretta Lynch, who says her office is going to go after those engaged in anti-Muslim speech in the US. I have just found an article from 2014 that goes into her antisemitic background at Harvard.

http://gotnews.com/loretta-lynch-belong ... ard-group/

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Pallywood

 Post subject: Re: Pallywood
Posted: 05 Dec 2015, 01:07 

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Views: 10636


Good, concise video of the true history. Maybe you saw my post yesterday in my "Trump Speech to Jewish Republican Coalition" thread, where I mentioned that the whole idea of "Palestine" was a canard. They do not even want a state, they just want to exterminate the Jews. Its truly despicable. You know, I was just thinking of that saying that says, "Whoever wins the war, writes the history books." Well, in the case of the Muslims in Palestine, its been a case of whoever wants to win the war, writes the history books.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Pallywood

 Post subject: Re: Pallywood
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 22:19 

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Views: 10636


Well, this is a hard one to spin. lol But they're trying, dammit. :razz:

Check out the short video at this link. No need to read the article, just move the video up to the 20 second mark. A CNN reporter tried to link the motive to postpartum depression. Cry me a frikken river. lol :lolhard:

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/cnns-bu ... ist-attack

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 20:58 

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Views: 45374


I have not seen these videos, but I am familiar and in agreement with your bullet points.

Concerning: * We worship Jesus Christ just as you do---are you familiar with Chrislam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm0HM_9a8Y

Chrislam is spreading like wildfire, not only in the middle east but in the West. It is the perfect religion to augment Satan's penultimate hurrah in the Tribulation. The Pope seems to like the idea too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQTBsmv1i0

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Pallywood

 Post subject: Re: Pallywood
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 20:33 

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Views: 10636


Watch the US media contaminate a terrorist crime scene. None of that evidence should be permissible in a court of law if charges are brought against anyone else relating to the recent terrorist act in San Bernardino. Apparently, the landlord pried off the door for the media to come in. He is now in custody for doing this. The media mentions that they are not affecting the crime scene because all relevant information has already been gathered. Yet it is an ongoing investigation. lol. This is beyond surreal. But at least they got to "humanize" these scum, per their master's instructions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfgU5S36e6g

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 20:18 

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Views: 45374


Everyone needs to read this.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/lor ... .rkr0rk0LV

 Forum: Politics   Topic: Pallywood

 Post subject: Re: Pallywood
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 20:15 

Replies: 12
Views: 10636


There is a lot of manufactured news these days, which includes "actual footage." Pallywood is just the tip of the iceberg. Lots of information on this subject out there if people are willing both to look for it and separate the wheat from the chaff. There's more disinformation floating around these days than anything Orwell ever conceived of.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 05:19 

Replies: 86
Views: 110307


On another note: Donald Trump (in the video with him speaking before the Jewish conference) stated that some will not want to vote for him simply because he refuses to take their money....


I thought he handled that beautifully. And that crowd was by no means 100% in his corner. He basically told them that though many of them wouldn't support him, they would still be happy with the job he would do for both America and Israel. He didn't panic or react, just told them the truth. And part of the truth is that some wealthy Jews like to own candidates too. He told them that a few months back, before he was running for office, he was sitting right where they were sitting, looking to influence candidates with contributions. lol. I mean, how more honest can you get, while courting people who are booing you, without being defensive or lashing out? It was unbelievable. lol

All in all, it was my favorite DT speech yet because it was more relaxed. The Jews don't want to hear "rah, rah" and he knew it. So he just flat out told them what was up. He even alluded that he would win the election unless he had an "unfortunate accident." He didn't hold anything back that I could tell. Very honest.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Trump Speech to Republican Jewish Coalition

Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 05:03 

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K. I watched the speech. Here are a few points/questions that I feel need to be addressed:

1) The Iran deal was stupid, it needs to be undone. I agree 100% with Trump on that. Big thumbs up.

2) Israel is a sovereign nation. Why is it so important that any American President draw up a deal between Israel and Palestine? Democrat or Republican, America needs to stop rubber-necking its way into Israel's business. I get that Trump is addressing Jews here, but Israel is not America.

That is a big can of worms that's been the status quot for the last 40+ years. And it is complicated, but as simply as I can put it: Though Israel is a sovereign nation, it has been the threat of US military might that has held the middle east in check all these years, keeping the Jews from being pushed into the sea. At the same time, US dependence on middle eastern oil and the petro-dollar for which it stands, has made the US reluctant to always back Israel 100%. The result has been a lukewarm stalemate between Israel and the rest of the ME. The US is the only country that could arrange the peace between the Jews and Palestine because it is the only power that has kept the limited, watered down peace that Israel enjoys today in place. But really, the whole idea of Palestine is a canard, but I have not the time or inclination to go into that subject. I believe brainout has some posts about that in another thread.

Israel is not America, but America has been an important ally and plays an important roll in helping them all not get slaughtered. America has enjoyed blessings from above for taking this position, though with Obama that has changed. I wish the Jews would abandon Zionism altogether and all come over to N. America. They are too easy for the Devil to exterminate where they are presently located.



3) ISIS! How would Trump handle ISIS? If he wants to arm more local factions, its not going to work. Remember McCain's photo op with the FSA? Now the FSA is ISIS' mainline. Again, its all because USA was rubber-necking its way into the business of sovereign nations. Personally I don't think a bit of it was accidental. To kill ISIS you defund the FSA.

Haven't you heard? Trump has come out the last couple of days saying he wants to kill them all and their families.Think Daleks of Dr. Who fame. Trump wants to unleash the Daleks on ISIS and the nests they breed in. As far as ISIS and FSA, there is much much more to that story, and the breadcrumbs lead to Washington. The information is out there if you want to know just how twisted things have become.

4) Replace Obamacare with what? Another elaborate quasi-socialist scheme? That's like Bush and Medicare Part D. We need tort reform so that competition can dominate the medical market again. Then we can stop using the Third Party scam as a crutch.

Trump has said he wants to remove all the boundaries so that Insurance companies can compete in all 50 states. Free market principles would naturally drive prices down. From that, I take it that he wants to 'replace' the ACA with something more akin to free enterprise, but he hasn't released position papers on it, so beyond that, I couldn't say.

I like that Trump is financing his own campaign, and I like the way he talks, but it really sounds like THEY are all trying to tickle our ears.
The American people have itching ears and want to be pandered to. Every politician, no matter how reluctant, has to kiss babies. Trump, at least, is pandering to the idea that we are a sovereign nation.

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Trump Speech to Republican Jewish Coalition

Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 02:44 

Replies: 9
Views: 9246


Donald is much more relaxed with the Jews than he is with the WASP. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYOvDmWqjo

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 02:37 

Replies: 38
Views: 45374


http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-vic ... out-islam/

 Forum: US Pres Race 2015-16   Topic: Who Would You Vote for among the GOP Candidates?

Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 20:39 

Replies: 86
Views: 110307


All he has to do is to knock down one, or maybe two. And, like seen in the Torah in ancient Israel, having a law that told parents to initiate the execution of recalcitrant sons... many other sons will suddenly wake up and take note, and be probably very nice towards Trump during his terms in office. (of course, Joe Biden will even say he voted for him)

Good point. I think we can already see some of this coming to fruition because a few members of the 'cartel' are starting to hedge their bets about Donald, albeit grudgingly. If elected, he may be able to form a coalition, but it will never be universal. Some of these people are die hard and will just lay low, looking for their next angle to take a shot at him. Remember most politicians can improve their own personal position ( finances ) while destroying their own country. (Everybody in the Cosmos has their price.) For DT, his own personal fortunes are tied directly to the country and its infrastructure.

 Forum: Politics   Topic: The West vs Islam: USA

 Post subject: Re: The West vs Islam: USA
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 19:20 

Replies: 38
Views: 45374


Wow. He actually said it. Well, he didn't come right out and say it. But he alluded to the elephant in the room. Draw your own conclusions.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... dont-know/

 Forum: Islam   Topic: SueMeSaudi, yes!

 Post subject: Re: SueMeSaudi, yes!
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 19:03 

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I linked to that article as an example to illustrate my previous post. The point I'm trying to make is that independent journalism is something that will continue to be suppressed and why. Nothing unsettling must come to light. The frog must be boiled slowly. If you noticed, the link that Drudge gave was already dead. It had been disabled by the time I tried to click on it. Things get scrubbed all the time.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/scytl- ... 2012-01-11

I think computerized voting was a mistake to begin with. There needs to be independent verification processes of vote counts by people on the ground that cannot be manipulated by a computer programmer. As these processes become more and more streamlined and centralized, the potential for fraud increases exponentially. As Stalin said, "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."
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 Forum: Islam   Topic: SueMeSaudi, yes!

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For example, read this now. It won't last long.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm
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