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PostPosted: 04 Oct 2016, 16:18 
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It seems that Apple has decided to copy one of Windows 10's most annoying "features" and is starting to automatically push the macOS Sierra update to Macs.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-pre ... -your-mac/

Selective reporting. SHOUTING about Apple doing it but relatively quiet (no doubt paid to be so) when the Microsoft Corporation do it.

Apple to start downloading macOS Sierra automatically on supported Macs
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-to-s ... rted-macs/

The fact is there is no comparison with the Microsoft Corporation aggressive approach with pushing Windows 10 on the consumer.

In the case of macOS Sierra the opt out choice is clear. The same update approach was first introduced by Apple to Macs upon the release of OS X 10.9 Mavericks therefore not newsworthy and unlike the Microsoft Corporation upgrade model is not intrusive.

One wonders how deep the corruption of ZDNet goes.

Even SJVN commentator on Linux has been partially silenced on ZDNet. No longer is he free to write articles lambasting the Microsoft Corporation or any of its products

He are classic ZDNet SJVN articles. I would have a wager the same would not be possible today

http://www.zdnet.com/article/five-reaso ... n-arrival/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/five-reaso ... as-failed/


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PostPosted: 06 Oct 2016, 22:11 
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Well Apple forces updates on iOS (you can only defer them for so long before the device running iOS will forcefully update itself after a restart). I learned that the hard way after deferring updates on my iPhone 6.

EVENTUALLY the model of forced-OS updates will be the norm, Google was probably one of the first for forced updates, then the new generation of employees at Microsoft thought "well people need to be up-to-date" so they've implemented forced updates in consumer versions of Windows. Soon Apple will probably fold completely and mandate that (at some point) as well. I bet even Linux distros will probably pick this up as well.

This is just the mentality of computing now.

The only solution is to just have an 'offline' computer / and then either run a VM inside it which does have internet access (as a sort of bridge), or use two computers with one being online and the other offline.


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PostPosted: 08 Oct 2016, 14:17 
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Apple does not force iOS upgrades as the device owner has to accept the update manually therefore will continue working with iOS 9.

Where Apple have got it wrong is they stop signing the previously release of iOS almost immediately therefore should the device owner wish to roll back to iOS 9 by restoring from an IPSW image they cannot.

In the case of macOS its different. Should the Mac user want to they can carry out a fresh installation of a previous OS X release (providing the Mac is compatible with that release).

For example with OS X Snow Leopard a fresh installation of 10.6.3 can be made and all updates that are available can be applied including 10.6.8 which was the last major update released for Snow Leopard.

Apple do not stop signing an OS X release completely as they do with iOS but you have to have the latest image of that OS X release. In the case of OS X El Capitan Apple no longer sign version 10.11.2 but continue to sign 10.11.6


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PostPosted: 28 Oct 2016, 20:51 
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5735guy wrote:
Apple does not force iOS upgrades as the device owner has to accept the update manually therefore will continue working with iOS 9.


Actually Apple does enforce the iOS updates, like I said, I kept deferring updates for over a year leaving the original release of iOS that was present when the first iPhone 6es came out--because it's a bloody phone and that's all I use it for. Then one day when I *restarted* the phone without warning or accepting anything, the latest version installed itself without my consent.

Phones are a bit different from desktop or laptops though / which is why I don't run Windows 10. *cough*


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