Caveat #2: Who Speaks for God,
aka "Verbal Plenary Inspiration"
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Clearly only GOD can speak for God. So, He Wrote A Book. God-breathed Bible, aka the "Autograph", produced by Him 'breathing' into the writers, His Thinking; hence, "Verbal Plenary Inspiration", the idea that God's Entire Word As He Meant It To Be, was given to the authors of Scripture; and the human authors, despite using their own way of writing in their own languages -- they nonetheless accurately wrote what God wanted written. So this God-breathed Bible, is as Infallible and Inerrant as God Himself. But He didn't write it in English, because English didn't exist, back then. He wrote it using human beings, who spoke in certain languages, and thus wrote in those languages.
So, Bible calls Scripture "God-breathed" (Greek: theopneustos, term used in Timothy), meaning that the Holy Spirit breathes Divine Thinking into the human writer -- 'spirit' also means breath in the inspired Bible texts, so it's a pun to say "theopneustos". Just as God breathed Scripture into the writers without waiving even one teeny characteristic of their own free wills and personalities, so also God can and will write/breathe His thinking in us. It's a PROMISE going all the way back to the Garden, depicted by those animal skins He made for the newly-fallen Eden couple. God will 'cover' you with His Thinking. Kopher with Kephale, Cover with the Head! Kopher with Kephale makes Qadash for Qadosh, Cover with the Head makes Holy FOR the Holy One! So we are to cover our heads with His Word, Old and New Testament; which Word in your words thus accomplishes every atoning and propitiating and reconciling and redeeming on ALL of whatever you are or will happen to you; because, He did all that on the Cross in order for you to get it all Out From Him, Isa53:11 (LXX Greek inspired text). So all our lives can be covered with Him, and we are not stuck having to live for ourselves in this scratching and biting and fearful world. The legacy of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil can instead be Covered with the Legacy of Him Who was depicted by the Ark: His Deity, pure Gold! His Humanity, pure sacrifice! Happy Sacrifice, though, because He Was Covered By The Holy Spirit. Who breathed into Him His Entire Life, down Here: thus He became "the Way, the Truth, and the Life". Covering, all of us.
Here's the idea: if you aren't breathing God's Thought, you're not living, baby. So, the people to whom He gave Scripture to write, had His Thought 'breathed' into them. In a particular language (about 8-12, in Bible), over the 1500 or so years it took to get His Thought breathed as He wanted us to know it. But only via those people. But only in those languages. Not, in any translation. So if only those languages and only those people, then God would have to preserve all that Holy Writ throughout the centuries, huh. To Cover everyone who will be born. Of course, if we want to cover UP what He wrote, we can. Of course, if we want to hide what He wrote, sequestering it rather than learning it, we can. For we can cover, too. What God breathes, we can breathe out from Him.. or, not. Of course, if "not", then we aren't breathing, either.
The problem of Bible translation, can be illustrated simply. Say a Bible verse in the original-language text said, "The Maserati convertible sped along the Autobahn". The translation will go something like, "the vehicle travelled down the path." Or, worse: "the vehicle stopped on the path", which of course reverses the meaning of the original as well as fuzzing over it. Pretty bad translations, huh. So if you needed to know it was a Maserati in order to be SAVED, you'd go to hell. And that's what translations do to the reader: give him a hellish idea of God, give him a hellish idea of the spiritual life, give him hell, period. Which is the only reason why so many dingdongs think there is human life in a womb (all those verses were reversed in translation). Which is the only reason why so many dingdongs think a lot of goofy things about God. And inflict hell on themselves and everyone else, with their own bad breathing.
Next analogy: think of something that happened to you which someone else, retold FOR you. Wasn't at least some of the retelling, inaccurate? Sure. Can't but happen. The more you get away from the Original Source, the more inaccuracies must creep in. So: yeah, maybe mostly accurate, but not perfect. It's called "hearsay", and is not admissable in a court of law. Shouldn't be admissable in the learning of Word, either.
Now, if God the Holy Spirit chose THOSE authors and those languages for His Original Writ, He had a reason. Surely, the study of the Word He chose, is the most important thing we can do. More important, say.. than becoming a millionaire, or being an expert lawyer or doctor. So why then would the Christian decide that learning the Word is supposed to be easy? Just to suit his laziness? Point-and-shoot at a verse, and oh! that's the answer? God is not a genie, and disrespect for His Word is not exactly gonna get much approval from Him.
So, then, what do you do? Just throw away the translation, scared to trust it? Of course not. At the same time, do you want to deal with second-hand truth? Maybe even largely accurate? What if you could just study the original, with God Himself Speaking (as it were), direct? Well, that's what He intended, and via 1Jn1:9 and study under your right pastor, that's what you can learn: it's not a question of human smarts. If it were a question of human smarts, then He'd not have kept those old, very ancient, copies of the originally-written text, hanging around all these centuries. They wouldn't be needed. Surely God doesn't do what isn't needed.
Do you get the idea that mankind is pretty uninterested in God? And, that interest has vastly declined over the long span of history? So how Vastly Important is it to FATHER, that we want to learn His Son? It's a BIG deal! Those Scripture writers all suffered greatly for the privilege, not so much on the outside, but On The Inside. For, the more Divine Truth you know, the more unacceptable it is to live down here. Even if circumstances are rosy. In fact, you come to yearn for bad circumstances (see what Paul said in Phili3). For, the Truth Is Divine, and humanity can't take it; but once Enabled by the Spirit, the human can't stand living without it for a single second (ibid, and the Lord's many statements like Matt4:4). Hence the Filling of the Spirit. Hence the term, "God-breathed" (theopneustos, in Timothy): our very breath is His Breathing.
God is Infinite. So whatever abilities we lack, don't matter. But whatever abilities He wants to give us that we reject, do matter. So if He gives us the ability, irrespective of smarts, to learn this Word in a language we don't know, a Word He has carefully preserved despite many horrific attacks against it, then.. dare we reject His provision? After all, one of the reasons we are created low, is to Teach us the Full Spectrum of Truth. It doesn't stop God from teaching the Full Spectrum of Truth, that we are low. But, if we choose, it can stop us: by our disinterest. We show we are not interested in but second-hand truth if we rely on what people tell us Bible means, but we don't learn it ourselves. We show we are not interested if we rely on a translation, too. For, all a translation can be, is someone is telling you what the Bible says (he's translating it, not you); instead of you seeing it yourself.. in the original. Which, God has a system of Teaching set up, to prevent your relying on hearsay. Do you get in that System, or not? Your choice.
God is BIG. It should be the hardest and most desirable, and most time-consuming endeavor, to learn Him. In fact, it is impossible: so, the Holy Spirit enables it. But, if you don't want to learn what will take a lifetime to learn well, then.. you won't. Simple as that. God will be as close to you as you want to be close to Him, fellowship-wise. Your choice. Every second. Every second you can change your mind. Every second you can change it back again. Until you die, when you cast the body of Learning in stone, thereby capping what 'dividends' will come from it forever.
But what if you don't know how to read those languages, to verify the Author? Well, actually, you should learn them. That's what 1Jn1:9 is for. Meanwhile, and in every other second of your day, also: since GOD lives, He Testifies. So, the Holy Spirit witnesses only to accurate statements in anyone's mouth; in the Old Testament, even a donkey's! Bible is From Him. So you can't assume that because someone is 'respectable' or a 'Christian' or a 'pastor', that you're getting valid information. Frankly, if anyone would bother to read Matt7:20 in context (i.e., vv15-19!), the "by their fruits you shall know them" is a just such a warning, and isn't even about works. Just after v.20 is the famous "Lord, Lord" verse -- so, hello -- beware! Check It Out. Many such warnings about 'false prophets' (teachers) are in Scripture. Idea of false witness: a person cannot be filled with the Spirit (next Caveat) and telling a lie at the same time.
The shaving is predictable and categorical, as is the usually-sloppy scholarship among teachers to congregations, not to mention, in Bible schools. You can prove this fact when viewing the translation compared to the lexicons, compared to the commentaries, compared to the Original-Language Texts -- you can practically hear the committee or teacher rule on this-or-that rendering of a word, to avoid outcry. It's political suicide to create a correct translation. Those so concluding over-rationalize; they are too protective of really egregious translation bloopers in older 'venerated' Bible versions, like the KJV and Geneva, fearing then the masses will thoroughly distrust any translation. Of course, the mass reaction to the tiniest flaw in a religious person reinforces the desire to shave, truncate, and otherwise distort Scripture. We are, after all, human.
The 'Peter is Rock' lie is obvious when you search Scripture to track the Greek word PETRA: it's a major keyword for Christ in the inspired Greek OT (LXX, used by NT writers and Christ). Peter's name in Aramaic given by Christ in Matt16:18 is NOT Petra, but Cephas (KAY-fass)/Petros; term means a CHIP, as in our American expression, 'chip off the old block'. PETRA is "BedRock" in the passage, but in English a "Rock" is of many different types. Not so, in the Greek: PETRA is a specific bedrock on which the Ark sat, in the Holy of Holies: almost-sacrifice 'bed' of Isaac. So there is no way to mistake that Christ means HIMSELF, in that verse. The only way you can cover that fact up, is by bad translation. (The Dome of the Rock was constructed over that bedrock: Muslims substitute Ishmael for Isaac in Abraham's sacrifice story.)
Next, sin can't be an issue, because it was All Paid For By Christ, even for ALL unbelievers (see Rev20:11-15 in KJV). But verse translations cut out the SUBSTITUTIONARY meaning of "huper", truncating it to "for" -- so in English, verses look like a bargain-basement salvation, rather than a wholly-funded thing. Incredibly-obvious skewing, to keep the fear and guilt going, so religion can retain power. Not a mere tiredness-of-translator, since this truncation and skewing has gone on for centuries, and is not fixed until yet, despite public domain original-language manuscripts anyone can see.
Like P.T. Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute." Clearly. I've yet to see even one Bible documentary pro- or con- Bible, which didn't pull the wool over the eyes. It's pathetic. But then, so is humanity, which is why our So Great Salvation is precious beyond pearls (most valuable gem in ancient world).
So translations partly can't, and when they can, don't accurately translate Bible's writing styles and actual vocabulary, each jot of which are critical to understanding. Sadly, most non-English translations of verses I've seen in BibleWorks seem to borrow from English translations, rather than translate afresh from the original-language texts. This is a problem, for English is a deliberately vague language. Every language has an embedded 'philosophy' which governs how words are formed. In the formation of English, precision was deliberately fuzzed over in the language's very development, so England could stay a sovereign nation (by means of trade and diplomacy -- look how small a country it is). The Biblical languages, by contrast, are extremely precise. One tiny change in a particle can change the entire meaning of a sentence, and also the precision allows for multiple layers of meaning at once to be fitted together. It's awesome.
Here's a quick example, which I just heard in Bible class (L1673, 92SD) a moment ago (on 2/3/04): 1Jn2:5, translation (from Greek, mind you, not English): "Whoever keeps His Word, truly in him the Virtue-Love FOR God has been completed." Click here to see the vast difference the original languages make in Bible verse meanings, compared to the translation. Frankly, Caveat #4 is even more shocking. Click on it at Home page top, then on the first link you see; then start reading, especially the white table in that latter link.
By contrast, you get the idea in translation that it's all huff and puff, doing stuff. What a lie. Satan's Lie, his Frankenstinian undertaking; so that man apes Satan (like the woman eating the fruit), instead of being transmuted to become like God, via GOD'S running and depositing Spiritual Truth in you. So when you read Bible, you see Satan instead of God. Awesome, dripping, derision. For, the sleight-of-hand done in the translations is way too clever for man to conspire it. You can prove this too. [SatStrat.htm is a very long and involved analysis of the satanic signature. It's predictable like the dawn, very lawyerly, way too clever for man to easily notice. And just as distinctive, as if Satan&Co. were waving a flag attesting to their presence. Burlesqueing us. Saying we are apes, for example, in order to get us to APE them, get it?]
Two of my favorite early mistranslations are Gen3:9 and 11: God is made to look stupid. Especially in context, these mistranslations illustrate the very doctrine God is teaching, so the tweak against man and God is thus intensified. For, the end Gen3:9 should read, "WHY are you where you are" -- a gentle interrogatory to get Adam's brain to start working again, not God being unable to find Adam. Which you know immediately is the real translation, because in v.10, Adam answers why he hid, rather than say 'here i am'. [Adam thinks he can hide from God, see. So God 'plays' with Adam's insane hiding, but His "where" is where-in-your-soul, hence WHY. Yet -- oh, this is so rich -- the translator thinks God doesn't know where Adam is, and must ask. Is this clever satanic derision, or what? See how the translator exactly emulates fallen Adam's thought?]
Gen3:11 is even more cleverly mistranslated, and would require its own webpage to explain. Hiphil of nagadth doesn't mean "tell", but "tell against", "denounce", especially here ("denounce" is my pastor's translation of the verb): you won't easily find this fact in lexicons. But you should, since to translate it merely "tell" maligns the God Who Made Them Naked (a point God stresses at end of Gen2). Key concept within this verb is always emphasis on WHAT AUTHORITY is doing the 'TELLING'. So to include that essential connotation, the translation should read "What AUTHORITY denounced you as naked" or "What AUTHORITY told you that being naked was bad" are more correct idiomatic English translations; especially since the Hebrew interrogative "who" is about IDENTITY -- another authority marker; especially since the question is another interrogatory to get Adam's fearful, accusing brain to start functioning again (notice how the Lord DOESN'T criticise). After all, the Lord's AUTHORITY is supreme, and HE made them naked. So someone ELSE (Satan) must be denouncing them. (My pastor made a big point about that when he exegeted the verse, also noting the parallel between arom, naked and arum, "crafty" in Gen3:1.) So, WHAT AUTHORITY is the question posed. See the stern 'face', but the huge kindness, the Lord uses when He speaks to Adam?
Every verse I've ever seen in Bible is mistranslated in some very important way: usually, by shaving (the most potent lawyer's tactic in a courtroom). No human, however, can shave so well as Satan: notice how in Gen3:11 above, the mistranslation DENOUNCES God by means of mistranslating the verb which means 'denounce'! So don't blame the translators, but do notice satanic involvement, for your own protection, so you too don't get hooked like Adam and the woman. For, we all do get hooked. Routinely, every day, many times a day: all it takes is a little fear, a little guilt, a little dishonesty, a little accusation, a little pride (I want=pride). Who can deliver us from these bodies-of-death? See end Romans 7 and all Romans 8.
But the problem remains: via translation you no longer know what GOD SAYS. On the other hand, it's impossible to translate the original-language meanings: they are too deftly written. Whole skyscrapers of layered meanings are communicated all at once in a verse. So, even if translations weren't additionally hampered with prejudice and insufficient applied scholarship, we'd still not have a truly accurate translation. So a translation is necessarily a dilution of His Word, so will have less accuracy: so you will perceive less. [There has been a lot of good scholarship on Bible. But the translators don't even follow rules taught in first-year Biblical languages, in seminary. It's awesome how provable is the foregoing sentence.]
Because, via this procedure you see the skyscraper of meaning available. Then you understand how God meant for us to study the original-language manuscripts, all along. Which, from the Reformation through the beginning of the 20th century, had become a desirable thing to do, so educated men routinely were educated in Latin, Greek, Hebrew. And used it in daily life (i.e., that's why most scientific terminology derives from those "classical" languages). Pity, that by the 1930's, it was no longer desirable to keep these languages, in seminary (they used to have to write their exams in Latin). All the greater pity, since in 1950 or thereabouts, a tremendous cache of Greek grammar rules, which (according to my pastor and also Daniel Wallace, among others) required retooling all we thought we knew of Biblical Greek. Yeah, but we lost the habit of the classical languages! What a loss! Yeah, but the Holy Spirit knows what do to about that problem...
Trouble was, due to folks' disinterest, teachers opted for the wine-and-dine method of diluted (hence satanic) 'spirituality'; so bad was the disinterest, that for long periods, Scripture was deep-sixed; just like it was 'lost' within the Temple, in OT times. But Now, Scripture is fully available In The Original to even the poorest people on the planet, via the internet. It takes time to learn, of course. So bleeping what? It's God's Thinking! So don't miss out on this, the highest blessing of life. Brain-damaged believers have learned Scripture this way in our own congregation, so you can do it, too.
That's one reason why I'm queasy about writing these sites. Frankly, they are first and foremost an internal exercise for myself: I just need to write 'as if' someone else would read my writing, to be more diligent. Yours truly has no authority; only the Word is Authority, and only under those God appoints to be pastors, should you be learning the Word: God has appointed a single specific pastor for you. Not a team, not a round robin, not a bunch of television programs you watch like a buffet.
Lots of books, videos (etc.) are out there telling you someone else's interpretation of Scripture, and lots of money is being made on those books (etc). With you, only the poorer for it. Scripture Is Your Inheritance. Billions of people over thousands of years lacked what we have in every American hotel room; even Moses himself didn't have the treasure you do. So these websites are at best brainstorming tools you might use under the Spirit to better understand Your Personal Inheritance. Doesn't matter, then, if you agree or disagree with what you read here or anywhere. GOD's Word Alone Matters.
Always push for mainlining Scripture on your own via Spirit and your right pastor. Your right pastor has a certain way he packages Scripture explanation. (No females are ever God-appointed pastors.) His way is a System. Learning his System will give you a system of thinking. Doesn't matter about errors, because they can be fixed later. Does matter about a system GOD APPOINTS for you. Akin to how you obeyed your parents, because they were YOUR parents. Staying under the systematic process matters far more than the mistakes all and sundry make, en route. Sure, you have to be on the alert to change to another pastor, if and only if Spirit wants that. Else, you stay under him.
So Only The Word Is The Valid Authority now, because He is Seated. God appoints people to Teach the Word, and ideally those people teach through the Power of the Holy Spirit, regularly using 1Jn1:9; in any event, Spirit will affirm to you directly any accuracy coming out of their mouths. [Lots of verses here, so only a few can be listed. See Heb1 (juridical basis); Only Scripture is Authority, 2Pet1:20-21, Heb4:12, 2Tim2:15, 2Tim3:16-17, 1Cor13:9-13, Rev22:6-21. Spirit-run and pastoral system: John 14-17, 1Cor2 (whole chapter); 12:7, Eph2:10 and 4:11-16 in Greek. English is really fuzzy.] See, it's Our Job as believers to get Trained in Christ's Thinking. So, we have a Mentor (see Jn14-17, passim, Acts 1). Not "Comforter" (pitiful translation of parakletos), but Royal-Heir Advisor, the Holy Spirit! So don't go expecting to hear voices, open up Bible to some random page. Use 1Jn1:9 and THINK!
Of course, if one misreads the Bible, one can say anything he likes. So test all you hear or read; use 1Jn1:9, ask Father in Son's Name for the Holy Spirit to show through SCRIPTURE what is the truth. Direct Testimony is for all believers, all the time. (see Rom12:2-3 and Eph4:23 in this connection) Not self-proclaimed prophets, because Now all "Word of the Lord" goes ONLY through the Son, Who Is The Lord And Is Seated (theme of Heb1); Whose Thinking is In Writing, Bible!
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HOLY SPIRIT's 'BRAIN' CAVEAT: "Filling of the Spirit" is a SOUL function, not a body function, so you can't feel it. BRAIN, not brawn: God is INFINITE, so UNFEELABLE. So: would you rather His (unfeelable!) Brain.. or your own? If His, then breathe 1Jn1:9 to be online with Him, as often as you remember (try to make it a habit). This need to name one's sins to God is as old as Adam: see Genesis 3, Ps32:5, 66:18. So it's not NEW; what IS new, is the Filling of the Spirit, to get the BRAINS you need to COMPREHEND THE COMPLETED CANON.
You can prove this fact fairly easily, even with a translation. 'Big hint is 1Jn's EXISTENCE as an epistle. It was written AFTER the Temple was destroyed, so AFTER the gift of tongues (a warning to Israel) ENDED. 'Written as a result of ALL the OTHER feely-spiritual gifts, ENDING. Everyone knew from 1Cor13's Greek that the gifts were only substitute teachers for the completion of Christ's "surpassing" (1Cor12:31, huperbale) thinking; for, the biggest promise in Scripture to be fulfilled, was Scripture itself in WRITING (Jer31:31-34, Isa53:11's Greek). Torah written on the HEART -- get maximum rapport with THE LORD, a goal quintessentially expressed in Ps119; see also Ps138:2b, 89:14-15, 31:5, Heb8:8-10:17, etc.
John was the last living apostle, so the last QUALIFIED person to write Scripture; so, he had to know he would be the last contributor to Canon. It's no surprise, then, that one of the refrains in 1Jn is about completion (e.g., 1Jn2:5, 1Jn4:16-19); and in Revelation, the capstone of completed time. So think: WHY would John spend so much time telling you how to DISCERN if you are in fellowship, if fellowship with God was something you could feel? You wouldn't need this ENTIRE EPISTLE if "getting the Ghost" was valid, for you could FEEL it. Don't know how God could make it plainer that INVISIBLE GOD IS UNFEELABLE.
So, the first clause in v.6 'points' to the first clause in v.7; to the first clause in v.8, 9, 10. Also, each second clause points to the second clause BELOW it; so also, each third clause. So, when you read all the 'floors' (three clauses, each a five-storey 'building'), you see the passage adamantly says that we need to be online with the Holy Spirit, the SPIRITUAL BRAIN (so to speak) for the spiritual life; WE ARE BLIND, otherwise. So, if offline, we only feel we understand things; or, we can't make PROFITABLE use of what we understand, because we are in the DARK. Rest of 1Jn goes on to elaborate, since the main theme of his book is HOW TO BE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT AND THROUGH THE TRUTH; which of course was also a major running PROMISE FROM CHRIST in his Gospel, John 4:23-24, whole chapters of John 14-17, and many other verses. (By the way, the framework John uses for the epistle is based on the famous Vine-branch parallelism of FELLOWSHIP in John 15. So absent 1Jn1:9, no fruit!)
Greek is so direct, in 1Jn1:9 -- Greek verb KATHARIZW is a CULTIC term for purifying the temple, and Isa53 uses the term for the effect of Christ's Work on the Cross (referenced in 1Jn1:7). Since WE ARE BODY, WE ARE ONLY PURIFIED via 1Jn1:9 usage. Couldn't be plainer, to the epistle's audience. Nor, to us, since we have the INSPIRED, COMPLETED CANON in writing. Just as God the Son always promised we would.
Checking Scripture is CRITICAL. Don't go by something you suddenly 'just knew' and lo! it happened as you just knew it. Demons play 'psychic' by first inserting an idea about something they see happening or about to CAUSE to happen ELSEWHERE, then causing the target to 'discover' the event, so that the target will mistake the supranormal or supernatural for God. Much of what passes for a 'healer' healing someone is demon activity of this kind, as well. God doesn't do things like this. He only speaks through His Word since the Session, Heb1. So everything from God is either DOCTRINE ITSELF or an APPLICATION of Doctrine. So, in either case, you CHECK SCRIPTURE to test the real source.
Such checking is worth more than all the gold in history. It will result in FINDING some verse or set of verses which CORROBORATES the certainty, plus will immeasurably aid your UNDERSTANDING of Him. Again, demons will try to mock this TRUE FUNCTION, by mimicking it. So you have to keep on testing. It's difficult, at first, especially if you are human, lol -- we humans are prone to TRUST our feelings, which is a fatal flaw. (Body has feelings as a feedback system, so it's dicey to disregard feelings, as well.) But keep using 1Jn1:9 like breathing, and over time it will get MUCH easier. This is what John means in 1Jn4 by discerning the difference between TRUTH and error: use 1Jn1:9, and check Your Master's Thinking, the Infallible and Inerrant Word of God.
If we apply the "Quick Lie Detector" link at Home page top, we find what we should expect, to prove satanic involvement in the "getting the Ghost" portion of Pentecostalism and like sects. What's the operative VERB in the POPULAR claim you get the Ghost? FEELING. And what is OPPOSITE feeling? THINKING. And what does SCRIPTURE COMMAND you DO, to be online? MONITOR YOUR THINKING FOR SINS, and name them when you can. Can't do that, if you're busy emoting. So, NOT FILLED. So dead works, detached from the Vine, fit only for burning (a feeling, by the way). See how Satan DERIDES God, REVERSING the meaning of the Filling of the Spirit, REVERSING SCRIPTURE, making the relationship a feely thing, SO YOU CAN'T THINK SCRIPTURE.. just as he did, with the Mycanean Greeks, from which pagan tongues also derived? See how this feely lie is but another version of the 1st Temptation (Matt4:3), which Christ REFUSED?
The "out" state is called "adikia" in Greek of 1Jn1:9, and in the OT that word was used for a DEFILED TEMPLE. Another Greek word in 1Jn1:9, katharizw (kath-ar-REE-dzoh) is usu. translated "cleansed", but really means "purified" -- THE SAME WORD AS USED FOR PURIFYING the OT Temple. (As you may know, the Glory of the Lord FILLED the Temple, in OT times. That's the analogy John is making, here.) So your body is a Temple (1Cor6), BUT IT'S YOUR SOUL WHICH DEFILES IT, not what you put into the body (Mk7:18-20, Matt15); so if you are in a DEFILED state, nothing you do, think or say is anything but "wrongdoing", the better translation of "adikia". WITHOUT THE SPIRIT, you're brainout. Spiritually comatose (can't lose salvation).
As here in 1Jn1:9, you can begin to see John's really keen on using Greek OT buzzwords (LXX), which of course in English, you can't notice. So you don't understand that it's the FILLING which is referenced in 1Jn1:9. So too, if you are defiled, your prayers are spoken only to yourself. Prayer has a protocol:
So, in a deflied state, neither understanding of Scripture, nor any works (i.e., preaching, witnessing) will be anything but hot air. God still might cause you to speak His Truth if He gave you that gift (and every spiritual gift carries with it some ability to be accurate, beneficial, for the sake of others): but YOU won't benefit from it. [Acts 21 is a good primer on this, but start context from Chapter 15; note how wacko Paul becomes; Greek uses a lot of genitive absolutes, showing a split-screen action. My pastor spends a lot of time explaining this Greek syntactical device.] Additionally, as you'll see if you keep reading, LIES will come out from your mouth, and thus others will be deceived (their fault, not yours, but you were the agent). So, there is a great deal of misunderstanding about the Ministries of the Holy Spirit being taught or believed among CARNAL CHRISTIANS. God is precise, and therefore His Word is precise.
It's positively INCREDIBLE how people misuse 1Cor12 and the Book of Acts. Notice how NONE of the so-called 'gifts' mentioned in those two books APPEAR ANYWHERE in the later (post-Temple destruction) epistles (John's, Peter's, Jude's, Revelation). [John's Gospel is said to be written in the 90's AD, which maybe is true, but the tone of it looks older. Of course, the Holy Spirit has perfect memory so can give Scripture of events at ANY time.] See, people need to STUDY THE WORD; not, as my best friend noted yesterday, "pick out what they like in the Bible and call that the truth." Those who flagrantly misuse the Book of Acts and 1Cor12 demonstrate PLAINLY that they don't compare Scripture with Scripture, which is the WORST thing a believer can do. Especially, if he is given by God to be a pastor. PRAY FOR THE PASTORS. They NEED all the protection they can GET!
So you MUST DISTINGUISH between temporary, and permanent ministries; and in the permanent ministries, you must rightly distinguish what they are. Apart from 1Jn1:9 being breathed, you will NOT rightly distinguish these things, because, as we saw in Caveat #2, ONLY GOD can tell you, and HE WON'T TELL YOU ANYTHING EXCEPT that you are IN A STATE OF SIN. [Particular inaccuracies will be communicated, too, really; but you won't CATCH ON to them, probably.] So, there's a whole lot of confusion about what "Baptism of the Spirit" means, despite the clear ANSWER in Romans 6 (Greek).
So, think: all that claptrap that you FEEL God or the Spirit is URGED on you. Overwhelms. With the result that, you STOP THINKING, and emote. Is this SILLY, or what? Makes NO sense. Why do you have a BRAIN, then? Encouragement is a BRAIN function, but urges are all body, baby. Click on the "Testing" box at Home pagetop, then on the "God is Not Magic" link, for a whole roster of demon goofinesses we Christians slaver over. You'll then see how the PATTERN of this goofy getting-the-Ghost is exactly the same as the other goofinesses man slurps up...
So, when unnamed sin is in your life, you're even GREATER Satan-fodder than the unbeliever, for the Satanic game is ALL ABOUT DERIDING CHRIST. Through wit. So now, you are WITLESS, so you can be witted on. So, what they do is give you SOME of the truth: kinda like in 1970's Hong Kong, when you bought what LOOKED like a Tissot watch: the exterior, was GENUINE; but the inner parts were INFERIOR. With the Bible, the trick is to keep feeding just ENOUGH truth to make the carnal Christian FEEL he's got the right answer. FEEL FEEL FEEL is the substitute for Truth; so important a ruse is it, REAL TRUTH will be used to JUSTIFY the feeling; 'counterfeit serpents' MIRACLES will be DONE to justify the feeling. So, the Christian FEELS RIGHT; so, he won't AUDIT THE 'INTERIOR PARTS' for how well they RECONCILE with Scripture. And they are so GLARINGLY out of kilter with Scripture, everyone ELSE notices, enfin. Like when the preacher stands up and with a smiling, sincere face tells his congregation they should make certain daily affirmations! so that when they need GOD TO BEND THE RULES, He'll [be a nice Genie and] get some human to bend the rules on earth...! Do you know, that televised statement had an on-screen audience of a good 10,000 people who applauded it!?! [I changed just enough of the statement to obscure who said it. Blaming people is not the issue: seeing our CORPORATE VULNERABILITY TO SATAN, is the issue.]
Since the Holy Spirit must ATTEST to any truth being said (see Caveat #2), Satan &Co. take advantage of that, see. SO SATAN&CO. DO TEACH TRUTH, to CAREFULLY REVERSE its meaning. Only breathing 1Jn1:9 over a sustained period of time, plus Word study (i.e., under one's right pastor if one is not a pastor), will grow one's discernment sufficiently to DETECT this sleight-of-hand. They do the exact same thing with Bible translating: Ps139:13-16 in TRANSLATION, for example, is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the inspired texts, say. Hundreds! of verses are similarly reversed. If you've the stomach for it, click on the "Fake Gospels?" box at Home pagetop, then search for Rom10:10, and see how ONE WORD screwed up in translation, screwed up MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR CENTURIES into REVERSING that verse's meaning (verse in Greek says you confess DUE TO HAVING salvation, not to get it).
So how does Satan&Co. HOOK the teachers? Oh, just like Satan used against the Lord in Matt4, always! PUBLICNESS is stressed: popularity looks like a revival, see. Never mind that the Lord told Elijah His Power was in the still small Voice (1Kings9:9-13). Note how a LIE taps into a VALID motive, that of wanting people saved and growing in Christ. So the ascetic is particularly vulnerable, for his sin is self-righteousness, Pharisaical; but ROOTED in a genuine desire for people to be saved. [The whiter the sin, the harder it is to see. More about this problem will be said below.]
So, the pastor/believer who buys publicness has GONE OFF COURSE (used like the term in Gal5:4, nautical use of ekpiptw) so has LOST PROPER FOCUS, but won't recognize that fact. So now, "matiotes" (common Bible Greek word which essentially means a vacuum suction of dirt, emptily sucking air, usu. translated "vanity") can enter. Rom1:21, 1:28-2:24; Rom8:20, Paul's pregnancy metaphor of STERILE, hence Satan-fodder. All Satan&Co. have to do is make people FEEL like a given idea or teacher is 'good'. Thus, that idea/person is promoted, popular, so...oil·, RIGHT! FROM GOD! (Demons send thoughts, feelings, illnesses, etc: it's a big doctrine in the Bible.) That's why even famous evangelists and pastors, who USED TO KNOW the REAL Gospel (i.e., John 3:16), will in later years MISREPRESENT IT, telling you to have a heart belief, receive, invite, etc. (More on this horrible fake gospel result follows in the second and third bullets, below.)
This FEELING, PUBLICNESS tactic hooks the pastor or believer into measuring spiritual success by secular standards, and we all fall for it! Every story in the Bible shows believer failure on this count: even the apostle Paul fell in Acts 18ff., if not earlier, which is why God carted him off to Rome (see Acts 22 for the prohibition). No wonder Satan picked publicness as his metaphorical base to tempt Christ, the first one modeled on 2nd Meribah, etc.
Twisting Scripture was key to the 2nd Temptation, and is thus a vital element in Satan's "D-I-O-S" plan to fool people: Derision+ Imbalance+ Obfuscation =Substitution: a "strange"/FOREIGN 'god', him. Appendix Link in Thinking Series (box at Home page top) has a good hundred pages on how this DIOS plan works. Essentially, the Derision is BLATANT, the Imbalance is EMOTIONAL, the Obfuscation is LAWYERLY, and the Substition is REVERSING. Very neat, definitely way beyond human genius, and only being consistently Filled with the Spirit will rescue you from the myriads of pitfalls hitting you every second you breathe. [They also and always OBSESSIVELY play on REAL Bible Doctrines in the original-language inspired Scripture, and always play on Greek culture. If you know the Biblical Greek cult words and have even a gist-understanding of the culture, you can look at almost anything and SEE, LIVE, this awesome thesauretical derision. These two characteristics conclusively distinguish satanic DIRECT INVOLVEMENT from mere human hallucinatory or otherwise-goofy origin. The Appendix link covers these characteristics in much more detail.]
People are swayed by WORDS more than by any other means, because the SOUL LIVES ON WORDS (ideally, Matt4:4, ON THE WORD, get it?). Body stuff is used by Satan&Co. TO SWAY THE SOUL, just as Satan used the First Temptation to sway the Lord to IMAGINE BREAD, which would have caused His Soul to tell His Deity to MAKE Bread, since as God all He has to do is WILL a thing, and it EXISTS! The Lord's DEITY AND HUMANITY ARE ONE PERSON. So a thought in His Human Soul could command His Powers as Deity. Two natures, but ONE PERSON, so ONE WILL, and..Satan, knowing all this, took advantage of it. Talk about a deft lawyerly tactic!
So, look: Temptation#2 in Matt4, jump from Temple. That's a PUBLIC DISPLAY, just as much as turning stones into bread would have been, though no one was there: for, once those useless stones were made bread..wow, everyone would KNOW! Who wouldn't believe, then? Same thing for jumping from the Temple, but using His GODNESS to make a soft landing. Same thing for just dzut! zapping Satan after PRETENDING to salute, in the 3rd Temptation. No cross, painless victory, nyaah nyaah Satan, I'm the ruler of all the kingdoms of the world. Our favorite fall didn't fool the Lord's Humanity. Cuz then FATHER ISN'T GETTING PAID, see. Cut out the heart, keep the form, and above all -- keep it PUBLIC -- and we humans can't tell the difference. BUT GOD CAN.
Satan's all about derision, and especially, deriding salvation. Just as he did, in the First Temptation; just as this guy did, unknowingly, when he used the verse to turn stones INTO mere belly bread. Thus, this healer-fakir use of the verse CREATES SOUL CANCER. Rather than healing anyone, it DESTROYS the idea that you learn the Word to get TRULY HEALED: just as Christ USED THE WORD TO PAY FOR SINS ON THE CROSS (Isa53:11, Hebrew and Greek inspired texts). So millions of people following this guy are getting SICKER, not better. And, since demons can just REMOVE THE ILLNESS THEY PUT in a person, the 'healer' will look genuine. Ay, Hansel und Gretel!
Satan never misses a chance to "diss" God, and ESPECIALLY likes trashing His Word. Virtually every mistranslation, every false doctrine, every MISstressed command will BLATANTLY reveal this derision, and in so precise a manner you can't even mistake Satan's signature. (SatStrat.htm has more details.)
So you can believe God will deliver you until you're blue-in-the-face! but if you aren't LEARNING the WORD consistently using 1Jn1:9 and under your right pastor, you'll just ... pass out, for the WORD IS DEAD IN YOU, since you have none, so your LIE that your 'faith' is some kind of work meriting Divine FAVOR, is a FARCE. James 2:26's climax point, which began at Jas1:1, is TWO-sided: faith without Filling is dead works; works without faith means no Filling also, so dead. Body apart from the Spirit is ALWAYS dead-in-the-water, and you're apart from the Spirit if you're NOT a) using 1Jn1:9 (corresponds to James 4:5-7, never well translated. See Bumpkin.htm, search on Jas4:5); if you are ALSO not learning Word under your right pastor. (See TrueFertility.htm.)
For, the 'harvest of faith' means the CROP OF CHRIST'S THINKING IN YOU, so you have to LEARN SCRIPTURE LIKE HE DID, under the Spirit. Do your homework on those seed parables, sometime. They aren't magic beans. SOooo, Satan&Co. sell "faith" AS magic beans, and YOU are the wonder-worker, to plant them in others. WHAT GARBAGE. As if God were a genie, and oh-you-so-trusting-believer, God must reward you with some toy. GET A LIFE. Any teaching which stresses what YOU DO, is a satanic lie, no matter how otherwise-accurate it may be. For if YOU are doing it, NOT FILLED, you are spitting in God's Face. Isa64:6 uses even stronger defilement language, than spitting -- get a Hebrew lexicon, see for yourself.
No one is saved by sliced-and-diced Gospels. No one grows spiritually by sliced-and-diced and GUTTED Word. Satan knows that, of course. We are too UNINTERESTED in God, to even care to do our homework. It's so patent, no wonder Lev26's warnings play boldly across the world.
If you examine how Satan crafted the 2nd Temptation, you'll notice Satan SLICED OUT a key clause in Psalm 91, so that the RESULTING truncated quote made it look like no matter what YOU do, God's gonna help you. So, jump off the Temple, see: God will deliver you. This tactic is ALWAYS employed in Bible translations. In practically EVERY verse. A patent example is how Ps139:11-17 is reverse-translated. Exegesis YOU CAN CHECK is in a white table, after you'd click on the link in Caveat #4. Incredible satanic deftness! If ever you wanted CONCLUSIVE proof that the Word is God's, you GOTTA investigate this technique!
The pastor was BLISSFULLY UNAWARE that the main theme of Romans 8 is getting the WORD FILLED UP ON TOP OF your IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS. Paul likens the process to the 'pregnancy' of creation giving birth to a 'crop' of Pleroma believers. [You won't see this in the English, because Greek keywords all have Greek-god cult meanings, and Paul is tweaking them, like he does in all his epistles.] I was in Bible class for maybe 2-4 years DAILY on Romans' exegesis, so that's a chapter I well remember. (It was during the weeks of exegesis over Romans 5 that for myself I began to see the flawlessness of Scripture in the original, and have never been the same since.) So to conclude about 'experience' is a deft REPLACEMENT of the WORD that Paul was talking about (especially since Romans 5:5). Only SATAN is that smart, but the speaker was just a pawn. We believers are ALL SO VULNERABLE! How we need to pray for pastors, worldwide!
SEE HOW EVIL? We know from 1Jn2:5 in Greek, that only GETTING CHRIST'S THINKING IN US makes us LOVE God, and makes us CHRISTLIKE. You can't be like Christ until you THINK like Christ, and you can't think like Christ until you learn Scripture properly; so you DON'T love God, and GOD WILL NOT work together all things for good in your life, because you're REBELLING AGAINST learning His Son. So all those Christians who just heard this pastor, who keep depending on their EXPERIENCES instead of LEARNING THE WORD, will eventually conclude the BIBLE wrong, and GOD wrong, and become JADED, because they learned this VERSE wrongly. Is Satan clever, or what?
Thinking series (box at Home page top) is all about auditing, but the writing style is conversational. Search on "STOP OMEGA" in caps in LvS4c.htm for a table describing the synopsis of Satan's toward-mankind 'herding' of God's Word (mimicking the Lord as Shepard, see). Larger description is in SatStrat.htm, which first orients the reader to Satan's own hyper-preoccupation with God's Righteousness, then goes into how he organizes and uses his methods, then has MANY examples you can test for yourself (too many, probably). Of course, don't even bother to read, if you won't breathe 1Jn1:9 whenever you think of it or catch yourself reacting.
What you really are: a miracle IN THE MAKING. FROM CHRIST'S THINKING BEING DEPOSITED IN YOU. For there is ZERO defense against Satan. Born again, we are truly Satan fodder from our first breath-by-Spirit, and if we don't keep BREATHING 1Jn1:9, we won't GET that Truth in us. Even the English of 1Jn1:5-10 can't cover up that fact (God is the smarter lawyer). Of course, if we don't READ it over and over, we won't see it, even if we DO see it. THAT's how bad our blindness is. Inherited genetically from post-fall Adam's genes (i.e., 1Cor15:22, Rom5:12's Greek tense of hamartano). Greatest of all miracles, Christ's Thinking IN YOU: "Christ in you, the Confidence of Glory", Col1:27. For Father wants to Hear His Son EVERYWHERE, see. Which He thus BLESSES, see. So the world needs to GET this THINKING, see. For it is Satan's world, see. So we should SEE, see. Instead of, being blinded by the kaleidoscope publicnesses of his dying kingdom.
All this talk about false teaching isn't AT ALL to badmouth anyone, but to STRESS for us brainouts (moi aussi) HOW BLIND WE ALL ARE. Even the human eye's BIOLOGY teaches us this: for the human eye sees everything UPSIDE DOWN from how it is. The only reason you can SEE is that your BRAIN learned how to INTERPRET what comes into the eye, by means of your parents and other people TELLING you what you saw. Talk to any long-blind person who suddenly got his sight back, and learn how he had to TELL HIMSELF what objects were, before he could SEE them, though surgery corrected his vision.
Scriptural Blindness proof: we all know Eph2:8-9, yet keep adding WORKS conditions to the Gospel like repent, invite, accept -- the latter two verbs aren't in ANY Gospel verses in Bible, and "repent" is not about sins, either. Of course, we'd know that simply by recourse to any of the "believe" verses in John 3 or any other ones the Lord spoke, like Matt21:32, where he contrasts the Pharisees who did NOT change their mind about the Gospel (English uses "repent" which means change-mind) with SINNERS who BELIEVED. Moreover, anyone who has NO or little faith, harps on works. That's how you TELL no faith is operating. For, the faithless demands works, laws, etc. FROM OTHERS. Because, he has no faith of his own. So, is BLIND. For, faith is a system of PERCEPTION, not blindness. You perceive the Gospel (aka "the Son" in John 6:40, Greek verb theoreo, great wordplay), and thus BELIEVE it. Seeing is believing, see.
So, since the late 1800's the so-called (inaptly named) "independent church movement" has come to dominate Christendom. Which is by STRUCTURE, the most Biblical, since Paul penned Eph4:11-16 to SHOW IT'S GOD'S DESIGN TO COMPLETE BODY OF CHRIST. However, no translation is clear (Satan never misses a chance). Still, the Body 'discovered' the BIBLE's teaching that the Body of Christ should be STRUCTURED as INDEPENDENT and LOCAL churches, EACH CHAIRED BY ONE PASTOR. THIS IS A REALLY REALLY REALLY BIG DEAL. Although you should NEVER try to date the Rapture (which is the kick-off sign for the Tribulation), if you WERE trying to date the Rapture, this OUTBREAKING OF THE WORD is a far more significant indicator, than whoever-in-Europe is banding together. DON'T WASTE TIME: LEARN THE WORD NOW! YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS IN YOUR GENERATION HAVE LEARNED IT WELL ENOUGH TO WARRANT CALLING US HOME! [Rapture's criterion is VOLITION, not any historical stuff you see happening per se. So whatever SHOWS volition's POSITIVE nature, i.e., the sudden rolling-out of Scripture, is the more important. LordvSatan4.htm goes into great detail on this topic. Best to read the whole "Thinking" series first (prior 3 htm's), so you won't read ~4.htm out of context.]
As a result, and given how we still don't spend sufficient time IN the original-language manuscripts, there predominate three basic classes of pastor-teachers . The first class is the smallest, and consists of (at most) a handful of pastors worldwide, who truly teach the WORD in the original languages. They are of variant growth levels, but get RIGHT that it's ONLY the Word, and only teach it. All else is incidental. So you just learn what Scripture says, not so much what to DO with it. Then, you CYCLE what you learned 24/7, during which process you LEARN what to do with it. All this, of course, assuming you BREATHE 1Jn1:9. If you're learning like this, GOD WILL GIVE YOU TIME. So you don't have to get nervous, anal, bulimic, etc. It's NEVER too late to get started.
A second and far more popular class really DOES focus on the WORD, but less so, compared to the first group. This makes them the more dangerous, for they are 'near-white'. For example, the second class mix experiential stuff in with the teaching; and the teaching, is too light on the WORD per se, but heavy on how to use WORD in bodily life. How God Himself IS, goes untaught or is shallowly taught; the pastor might be WELL trained, but either decides his congregation can't 'take it', or.. well, just settles for what's popular. With the result that, people are using WORD like a child would use a loaded gun, and shoot themselves in the foot. Ergo, this second class hasn't yet learned enough to rightly distinguish among the Spirit's Ministries, so still says that tongues and some kind of second (post-salvation) 'baptism', etc. exist; or, get OTHER FOUNDATIONAL doctrines, WRONG. So the parts they rightly teach, CAN'T be used. Your car won't operate if the battery is missing. If someone is pushing your car and you don't know it, you won't know the battery is missing. (Satan&Co. run all the spiritual towing companies, lol.)
See? These BIBLE facts about drunkeness, thinking, soul being saved are BUILDING BLOCKS from Scripture itself, not from someone's mouth. The 'mouth' is being used to EXPLAIN Scripture directly, not tell you how to use it. How to use it, is your ROYAL PRIEST function, not -- repeat, NOT -- the pastor's function. The pastor's job is already the hardest on earth, for he must STUDY AND TEACH WHAT'S IN THE WORD. The rest of us don't have the gift, don't have the time to punch out all those commentaries, and etymological studies, etc. [If you don't know you yourself are a royal priest, click on the "Spiritual Royalty" box at Home pagetop.]
So, if you KNOW those building blocks -- which you DON'T know, until you see the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE words TAUGHT -- once you know the building blocks, YOU IMMEDIATELY KNOW HOW TO USE THEM. Sure, it takes practice, since a body SKILL has to be trained like skating, racquetball, or other physical activity -- but you KNOW HOW TO TRAIN. You don't need some pastor telling you a LIE that tasting wine is a sin. You're not using SCRIPTURE, then, and the SPIRIT ISN'T IN IT. You're practicing a LIE, so you CAN'T be filled with the Spirit at the same time. Just as, when that guy said what he did, he had to be carnal. Good teacher though he is, in other doctrines. We're all human, folks. [Man, it hurts to have to type paragraphs like this. Thank GOD we all sin, so there are no stones to throw!]
So people under these second-tier pastors are getting TOO FEW BUILDING BLOCKS of the Word; worse, they are getting lots of USES of Scripture without knowing WHAT'S BEHIND the uses. Again, that's like being given a gun to fire with not only no practice, but no idea how the gun WORKS. (An improperly used, cleaned gun will explode on you.) So of COURSE after ten or fifteen years of this kind of 'spirituality', people become bitter, jaded, crazy, DEAD. YOU GOTTA EAT SCRIPTURE, not Satan-fodder.
So no wonder Christian activism, prolife, trying to manipulate US (and other nations') politics is the Rev17 harlot, with no one in Christendom the wiser. WITHOUT SCRIPTURE IN YOU, you have NO BRAINS. Without the Filling of the Spirit, you have NO DISCERNMENT -- again, 1Jn1:6-10. So any ol' thing will look holy. Just as it did to millions of Germans, when Hitler rose to power. Just as it does to millions of Christians today, who don't see the FLAGRANT VIOLATION OF SCRIPTURE in the proposal to have a Constitutional Amendment on the topic of marriage. Incredible blindness. It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL to have a FEDERAL LAW REGULATING PERSONAL RIGHTS, and you certainly don't make an amendment which VIOLATES THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! Sure, being gay is a sin. So is self-righteousness SUCH a sin, that in its LUST it will even overturn our nation's founding?!?! Lev26 last cycle of discipline couldn't be plainer. US has not long to live, if this keeps up. Christians are the cause of both the rise AND fall of nations, NOT the unbeliever. It was Pharisaism which felled Israel, remember.
In all classes, it TAKES TIME to rightly divide Scripture, so there will be mistakes made en route. Not to worry, but don't just swallow, either: 'test the spirits' warns 1Jn, which means, BE UNDER THE SPIRIT, use 1Jn1:9 like breathing. And, if a pastor is famous, often on TV or in public rallies, etc. understand that his time for study is almost ZERO. So PRAY FOR HIM. The world needs us to learn Scripture, so it's strategically important that pastors receive the most fervent prayer. Prayer is a VOTE TO LEARN GOD BETTER. You can pray for other things, but if you DON'T pray for what increases learning Him, you'll see Leviticus 26 play out in your nation. WE ARE THE ONLY JUDICIAL SOURCE OF BLESSING TO THE WORLD. Not due to our merit, but Christ's; not due to our existence, but FOR FATHER. GOD DESERVES HIGH; so we are to be MADE HIGH by the Most High God. EACH OF THEM has a Self-Chosen Role in this. Focusing on, for us, BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. ['Central accounting theme of "Due Disclosure" link at Home pagetop.] See Paul's prayers in Ephesians 1:15-end chapt., 3:15-21, and the TRUE Lord's Prayer in John 17. (The so-called Lord's prayer is a model, not the actual words to use, and should really be called "the disiples' prayer". Wish people would do their homework.)
Spirit has 7 Permanent Ministries, for Church. The ones you see depicted PRE-COMPLETION of Canon, were TEMPORARY, to substitute-teach what WOULD BE in Canon. Healing and other spectacular gifts were to VALIDATE THE TEACHING, not to mesmerize the masses, unlike today's fakirs. (If you need healing, use 1Jn1:9 and talk to Father about it. You don't need to spend money or time on 'healers' EVER. See 2Cor12:7-10, and Ps32:1-5. "Spiritual Pathology" link in "Advance Topics" box at Home pagetop might help you troubleshoot a SPIRITUAL PROBLEM which is being punned by some physical problem you have, to wake you up to habitual study and use of 1Jn1:9. Faster still, JUST GET IN THE HABIT of 1Jn1:9 and habitual study under a good pastor teacher who FOCUSES ON TEACHING YOU WHAT THE WORD SAYS, not emotional junk. Probably most physical illness would greatly diminish or go away altogether, if THIS SOLUTION were assiduously followed. Of course, don't go wacko and stop medicine, etc. God is a God of Authority; illness which is due to NOT being in the spiritual life might remain to keep you from giving up too soon. We get back with God because we want something FROM Him; but we need perseverance so that motive changes to JUST WANTING TO KNOW HIM. So an illness, may need to remain.] The post-Canon permanent Ministries are:
So there's NO post-salvation 'anointing of the Holy Ghost', "the second blessing", or whatever it's called by folks. Some people on Christian TV use these terms to mean Filling, which is, if properly DEFINED, a meaning of "anoint". [In the OT, 'anointing' was FAR FAR LOWER than we Church get. Never mix up covenants. In all events, "Anointing" has no PHYSICAL connotation to it; look up how oil makes things WORK, look how anointing was a ROYAL DESIGNATION FUNCTION, and you'll get a clearer idea what BIBLE means.]
So it's Filling with GOD's POWER to give you SIGHT, not fffffeeelling. Test this claim IN SCRIPTURE for yourself. Even 1Jn1:5-10 in English makes the mechanic clear: God is light, so you can SEE if in fellowship. SEE, not feel. We have a BOOK TO READ, not a book to thump. Light enables sight, is the analogy. BLIND people must feel to perceive anything. So you know right away the Holy Spirit would not 'fill' you by FEELING, since emotions BLIND understanding. It IS kinda hard to be learning the WORD with your eyes closed, hands in the air, muttering to yourself...
Of course, even sheer logic would conclude, if feeling were 'spiritual', then why do we have BRAINS? Wouldn't even NEED a BOOK, then. Or: if 'feeling' even electricity would KILL me, then if I COULD 'feel' God's Power, that would kill me a BIZILLION TIMES OVER. For, wouldn't GOD have to be a BIZILLION times STRONGER than electricity? Or, if you have to control your feelings to do a COMPETENT job at anything, from the dishes to DNA research, HOW MUCH MORE do you think God would NOT 'fill' you with FEELING!
Some people never believe a thing in Bible unless it's in red letters. So, look: the "Spirit", as the Lord explains in John 3:1-18, CAN'T be felt, or seen, BECAUSE NOT PHYSICAL. Greek (and Hebrew) words for "spirit", also mean "breath", "life": same 'invisible' analogy. Of course, ALL the Bible is AUTHORED by the "breath" of the Holy Spirit. Greek word is "Theopneustos", and MEANS, "God-breathed" (2Tim3:16).
Heh. AND THAT IS THE 'NEW' TONGUE! Divine THINKING in "earthen vessels"! In the Greek of 1Cor13, beginning with 12:31 (which points forward, not backward), Paul is ADAMANTLY saying that the new 'language' is the COMPLETED CANON. FAR better, "the thinking of Christ" (1Cor2:16, which is the basis for 1Cor13), than mere unknown-to-you languages. Look: I have an EXTREME talent for foreign languages, which everyone has told me since I was a child, which I now know is given mainly to understand SCRIPTURE in the original languages, better. [Trouble is, I type as fast as I can think, so have to edit a lot to make the thoughts more translatable.] But BIBLE is way superior to any kind of human or supernatural talent you can even DREAM about. Learn the Mind of Christ! 2Pet3:18! Makes you REALLY CLOSE TO GOD, 24/7!
Heh. God never takes away a thing without a FAR SUPERIOR replacement. No more Mosaic Law, because now the "law of Christ" replaces it! Phili2:5-10! Keep on THINKING THIS IN YOU... wow, you can learn to have "Christ formed in you" (Gal4:19, really means in Greek, BORN in you, not the same as being born again, but the BODY OF HIS THINKING, in the Greek). Or, "Christ at home in your hearts", Eph3:17 or nearby.
Tell me: would you rather settle for some kind of gibberish demons will pass off as an 'angelic language', for -- heh -- it's THEM TALKING, get it? Or, would you rather have the REAL MIND OF CHRIST, CIRCULATING IN YOU 24/7? Your choice. Of course, absent 1Jn1:9, you will only IMAGINE you know Bible. Like Don Quixote imagined Dulcinea was beautiful (Spanish of that novel is way better than any translation).
Well, what about works? How are all those poor, starving children gonna be FED? What about hospitals, giving to the poor, etc etc etc? Think, willya? Satan's claim rests on the belief that he is as good as God, Isa14/Eze28. So it's a MERIT claim. So every religion on the planet touts WORKS as GAINING MERIT WITH GOD. So no one's keener on works, than Satan: who himself is a prude, really. Satan doesn't like the gross sins, because they are BLACK, not near-white. He sponsors gross sins to make people WANT near-white, HIS OWN EVIL. TRUE EVIL IS NEAR WHITE in appearance. Darker shades are more INCOMPETENT at being evil. That's why Rev17 is depicted as a HARLOT MASTERING POLITICS AND RELIGION, for it PRETENDS to be white. Whitewashed tombstones, as the Lord put it: DEAD inside; pretty respectable, outside. Again, the "STOP OMEGA" table in LvS4c.htm explains his thinking in more detail.
So Christians who fall for Satan's Churchinanity plan will be working their hineys off. Meanwhile, God will use that to benefit the world as well, since the stupid Christians need time to grow up. Little chores for little minds who haven't clued in yet to the fact it's Christ's THINKING which paid for sins, the Greatest Work of all time. So, the Christians either stay there, NOT choosing to invest in His Thinking, or they grow out of it. Think! If you are thinking like Christ, will you be sinning? NO! If you are thinking like Christ, won't you WANT to do any good thing which is put into your hand BY GOD? YES! If you are thinking like Christ, won't you be SMART about the SATANIC EVIL of 'good deeds', like in Matt4, so you will AVOID THEM? For it's not about being good, but about BEING GOOD FOR GOD. GOD, not people. First Commandment, not satanic near-white substitutes.
So the massive labor supply of footmen is NOT suitable for compatibility with God. The Christian who denies this will END UP A FOOTMAN IN HEAVEN, because that's how LITTLE he valued becoming good enough in his THINKING, for GOD. "Thinking" series (box at Home page top) explores this theme as its central accounting mechanism, for I myself had trouble with the works thingy, but knew it was the wrong answer. Now, of course, I understand fully, WHY ONLY LEARNING and BREATHING SCRIPTURE, PLEASES GOD. Hopefully one day you will, too. NO ONE is excluded from this highest-of-lives. No matter what handicap.
"The Prolife Blasphemy" videos are below. To view them fullscreen (recommended for seeing Bible text), click on the four arrows at the far right of the player ribbon. When you see a '360p' or '240p' button, click on it and change it to '1080p' for HD. You'll need that to clearly see the text. Episode 3 has added videos in its description, so you can test what Episode 3 says, pan-Bible. Presently, those added videos are download-only, or are only viewable in bliptv. The videos are simply live Word searches pan-Bible, to back up what I say in the Episode 3 face video.
brainout | 19 Aug 2015, 17:54
This is a new debate forum topic for the Youtube Prolife Blasphemy playlist, click here. Prolifers maintain the Bible says that abortion is murder. The series proves that the Bible says no such thing. In fact, verses like Exo21:22 prove that PER GOD, the fetus is not alive (not a legal person), and Psalm 139 (inter alia) proves that only God makes you a person at birth, along with the many 'I called you', 'I made you', 'I formed you' refrains in Scripture. Atop that, God even orders abortion in Numbers 5:27 for infidelity, a verse which shocks the translators. Proof of that, is in the nine-subpart Episode 9 of the PB series (click here for 9a and keep watching as much as you can stomach).
So prolifers are ignorant of Bible, lying against what it says. The series cannot hope to cover ALL the verses showing the prolifers wrong, but will cover the main ones. Series is not finished yet.
Word to the wise: don't keep repeating the same tired posts, and don't merely insult without substance. Notice how people who do that in the PB comments, come off as liars and fools. So: do you want to waste your time and make others see how foolish you are? I bet not.
Consequently, the seven-year old series has so many comments, all so unwieldy, it seemed a good to create a more-organized thread, here. You can instead ignore the videos and just debate prolife in general, starting whatever topics you want. Thus people can debate with each other, more easily. As for the series, since there are over 500 Bible verses saying you're not human until BORN, I'm obviously not done posting the proof, yet.
So as for me debating with you, basically 'no, I won't': everything I could say is in the foregoing video playlist, and in their video descriptions and comments. In short, I've already had my say. Time for you to have yours. You can argue against me all you want, call me any names you like, and your comments won't be censored. Also, I likely won't respond. Will read, but likely not reply, as my replies are already in the videos and their comments.
Therefore, the Youtube video comments are re-enabled: so, you are free to debate here, or there. So if you want to debate with me, you better have already done your homework in those videos, and/or in BIBLE. In the Hebrew and Greek, please. Because the translations of 'womb' verses mask the meaning, a political ploy as the videos demonstrate. Even the scholars know this, and do nothing.
No offense, I'm tired of people just getting emotional and not doing their homework IN BIBLE. What IT says, not what you want it to say. What IT says, not what some apostate and unreading Dear Dr. So and So says to politically motivate you. No politics, no religion, just God, just Bible. THOSE authorities I respect. Everyone else can go.. fish. And finally, I'm not pro-abortion, as I'm adopted and the BIBLE's own theme is -- BIRTH IS GOD'S CHOICE, NO ONE ELSE'S. That, is what the videos demonstrate, live in the Hebrew/Greek (inspired) text.
I'm pro BIBLE. So to misread or deliberately ignore what's said in the videos and claim I'm out to promote abortion is to make a fool of yourself. In public. So there's no need for me to respond.
Next, Prolife is used by David Duke to promote anti-semitism. If I see you post comments from him in this thread and defending him, you will be accounted an anti-semite and your post deleted. Posting alone, okay. Defending, not okay. For it's his political agenda, to destroy Israel, and it's been his agenda for over 30 years. Anti-semites are one step away from criminal. The board cannot tolerate threats to the people in it.
So... debate among yourselves..? Or, if you'll debate with me, PROVE IT FROM SCRIPTURE, not hearsay. That alone deserves respect. Not, brainout. Not, dear Dr. So and So, and not you.
In well over 300 Bible verses, God adamantly says life begins at birth, never before, Due To Adam's Sin. See Jas1:13-15, for the analogy to womb and the sin nature condemnation, to explain how temptation becomes sin only when 'born'.
| "No Womb Life": click this link for more about the verses. |
NOT BREATHING=NOT ALIVE. That's a Bible and biological fact. No fetus of any kind, animal or human, ever breathes in a womb; hence there can be no soul in a womb (brain requires INDEPENDENTLY BREATHED oxygen, for thinking). Gen2:7 says life comes through God breathing "lives" (lit. Hebrew) into the nostrils of a body outside and fully formed. You can ask any ob/gyn about how every nose of every fetus, is plugged: first act in delivery is to open the plugs so exhale can occur. Else, the fetus was never born. Bible translations LIE against the God-breathed original Bible texts. There's no 'kind' way, to state that fact. More about that fact follows both in the above "No Womb Life" link, and in the text below.
Divine Jurisprudence is rather different from prolifers and prochoicers believe; both sides are wrong, abortion shouldn't even be a political issue on either side, and Caesar has zero rights to make any rules. Let's see what and why. In any analysis about God, you start with God and go downward. Always start at the top. Click on the intra-page bullets below, or just keep on reading down the page (the intra-page links are always listed in order, in my sites):
For, God breathes (ruach=pneuma=Spirit='breath'='life'), so to speak, is Life; so, not breathing=not alive. In the fundamental sense, nothing breathes apart from God. Infinity is alive, infinitely. Everything else, is dead. Or, worse: it's hell to be alive and finite, even and especially while perfect.. unless integrated with God. Perfection is a horizontal condition. Since perfect, any change within one's own nature, is to lose that perfection. This would be true of God first, and thus of anything He creates. For, to be perfect means one is "beyond improvement", as my pastor likes to say. So to be finite and perfect, means there is no way for the creature of himself, to 'improve' in nature toward God. A greater hellish awareness for both "parties" (God and finite souled creation) could not exist. Forever separated, two parallel but not intersecting, 'universes of existence', so to speak: because the perfection of itself, cannot be improved. Unless, some Integration Mechanism With God, wholly created by, wholly run by, and from God as wholly a Holy Gift, can bridge that impossible gap...
So, because He paid at the Cross, we become eligible to be born again, and hence likewise eligible to be developed like Christ was -- but only because we are saved. If we weren't saved, we'd not be eligible. Now you see another reason why it's so vital to believe in Christ to be saved forever, and why no other solution, works. Even Christ had to be developed by the Holy Spirit, and that without the separation which sin engenders. So.. Romans 5:8. So.. we need to believe in Christ for salvation, to be joined to God (theme of Eph2, Heb2-4). From that point, it's a development issue: for one must be first born, in order to grow!
Note the fundamental dilemma faced in the eternity-past Decree to Create: finity is too inferior to Infinite Righteousness; unless a breathing-God's-thinking mechanism could be united to it, there should be no souled creation. So how to solve this problem? Obviously, only one way: pour Godness Attributes into finity. That makes verticality, growth toward God, possible. But how to do that? Well, Truth is God's Attribute; God's Attributes are "undivided", so every Attribute has all the other Attributes, in itself as well. So, if Truth can be PUT IN the finite being, then the being becomes (immaterially) bigger, and of Infinite Quality, no longer of finite quality. So no longer inferior: "He is not ashamed to call [us] brothers", Heb2.
For look: to be perfect and see Gorgeous God, yet have zero ability to 'improve' toward Him, so you can't reciprocate His Love -- well, better to never be born. That's why Satan rebelled, at heart: he didn't like the fact he himself of himself had nothing to offer. Satan faced the same problem as Christ would later face: gotta throw the self, away, to be caused to grow toward God. So gotta die, then, in one's thinking about self-worth. So, Satan concluded it's better to throw himself away to rebel, than (in his mind).. to grovel. I will make myself like the Most High, Satan concluded.. and thus fell, Isa14:14. So, Satan would offer the future Christ all the kingdoms of the world in Matt4, in order to save mankind from this God Who Grows You by Throwing You Away.
God, of course, foreknew all this, and isn't really throwing anyone away; but rather, Making Sons As Good As The Son, Who Is As Good As God. And He does this, by creating a series of pregnancies, according to Isa53's God-breathed text (and elsewhere). Huh? That's impossible and Unrighteous, though.. right? Well, it should be! For Righteousness is Uncreated. Because, God Is Uncreated. So Righteousness can never be 'made'; only, given. Hence 2Cor5:21, an act that Isaiah likens to birthing, in the Greek and Hebrew God-breathed Bible text, of Isa53.
Hence "born again", John 3. But wait! Birthing cannot be righteous, since even finite perfection isn't enough. True. But Christ threw away His Perfect Humanity, so to exchange it for bearing sin ("made sin", 2Cor5:21), so now what's left? 'His Thinking on the Cross, which paid for it all. (Again, Isa53 and elsewhere explain the mechanics.) So now, like Isaiah exults in Isa55, it's okay to be finite and Perfect, or even a sinner: since the uniting mechanism was
Romans 8:11 et. seq. uses this fact to draw analogy to how the spiritual life down here, is a kind of pregnancy -- a type of death, versus being in eternity, since our bodies remain dead-to-God. Again, due to Adam's sin (see Romans 5). James 1:13-15 uses the same pregnancy=death analogy, to show how temptation is not sin, until it is born via volition agreeing to it. So if you agree to sin, you agree to temporal death, which is solved by 1Jn1:9 (Ps32:5, 66:18 in the OT). So even death doesn't give birth to death, without breathing; you have to be breathing, to have volition, see. Soul is created at birth, not before: if you don't know that, you won't get what James is saying in Jas1:21 (answering 1:13-15, in Greek), and in James 1:1-2:26 (learn and believe the Word Is What Works works, not man: the inspired Greek says this -- English mistranslates, esp. v.2:22).
See, from Gen1:2 onward God draws analogy to deadness versus aliveness-to-Him. Pregnancy is in the deadness category, a "tohu wa bohu" (Gen1:2, Hebrew, status of the earth after creation and after Satan&Co. trashed it during their rebellion). So, when physically born, you are breathing, hence alive (Gen1:26-27, esp. Gen2:7). So, a new pregnancy starts: being born spiritually dead, we need the Gospel to become spiritually born (John 3). Being spiritually born, a new pregnancy period begins, with the goal of being spiritually developed to Pleroma/Teleios (Fullness (pregnant)/Completion, big Greek keywords in Bible, esp. the NT) -- Romans 8 is on this, especially beginning in v.11 et seq. [Almost none of this meaning is discernible in English, which fuzzes over the pregnancy metaphor Paul always develops in his letters. "Pleroma" is a humorous word, dating from Greek culture idea of a woman being impregnated by a god. So Paul loves using that word, playing on the Seed going in us. James apparently liked it also, given Jas1:21's "implanted Word". Too bad modern ideas of loving God feel it holy to abort His Word by covering up all the sexual meaning the Holy Spirit had the writers, write in Holy Writ. The entire reason why sex is sacred to heterosexual marriage, and any sex outside that union is sin -- is to portray the deeper union of the sacrosanct relationship with God via the Word being planted in you. Oh well.]
So born to eternity, bearing His Thoughts as children, having been grown up in His Thinking, is the goal of the post-salvation life (main theme of Romans 8 and all Paul's letters, especially Corinthians and Colossians). Unless that happens, the believer arrives in heaven "naked", no rewards (1Cor3). Because, he didn't get pregnant and come to term "in Christ" -- meaning, filled with His Thinking, the Seed of the Seed (Galatians). So, you must complete the course (aka "finish", in English Bibles, 2Tim4:8). Else, you lose. Deadness=Pregnancy. If you don't understand that fundamental, you will never get into and finish the spiritual life God ordained for Church. Period. Much more will be said on this sweeping topic later in this Caveat, for it is the high end of the topic about pregnancy versus birth.
So yes, abortion is an issue -- but not the kind of issue the prolifers claim. For, there is no life in the womb, but in you, once born -- and if you abort from the Gospel (conceiving it via hearing it, but not believing it, so not spiritually born) -- or, if you abort from the spiritual life (hearing its real meaning, but not carrying it to term), you are dead, even while living. Saved forever, if you even once believed in Christ -- but you aborted your royal life after salvation. So yes, abortion is the issue -- but not, physical pregnancy, which is dependent, hence no soul is ever in a womb. Volition can't learn anything until born (Ps139:14+16-17): so no soul is ever in a womb. [Ps139's translation lies against what Bible says in the God-breathed text. The "No Womb Life" link above has a white table that goes through enough Ps139:13-17 exegesis, so you can see the lie for yourself. Translations related to womb concepts always LIE, are not mere mistakes. More on this topic also follows later in this Caveat.] God breathed lives into Adam (lit. Hebrew, Gen2:7) -- after the body was formed, because only after a body is fully functional and independent, can an independent soul, exist there. It's that simple.
Satan is entirely and provably the author of the prolife campaign, even as he is always the author of any sex-related crusade: to abort Christians from their royal inheritance in Christ. But then, Christians just like to use God like a designer label, to impress themselves about themselves. So they get "strong delusion" from God: Satan&Co. are allowed to 'play' with them.
So, they don't see the patent analogy: the whole prolife thingy is just another satanic rehash of the ancient Greek Cybele and related phallic-female-worship cultures, kinda like Mariolatry. So if you value your own living soul at all, study carefully the points made in this Caveat and its links. Better still, find a pastor (mine is but one) who is aware that it's a flat lie to claim Bible says life is in the womb: Bible says life only begins at birth, in the original languages.
Bible, of course, stresses that living=breathing, dead/not-existing=not breathing, every time it talks about life, and especially when it talks about the mechanics and function of the spiritual life: it analogizes Circulation, especially of Breath, as in "Holy Spirit", our Spiritual-Life Birther And Sustainer, Titus3:5, John 3, 1Jn1:8-10, etc. BREATHING is the operative criterion for human life (e.g., neshemmah in Gen2:7b the paradigm of when life begins), and death (e.g., ekpsucho in Acts 5:5).
God has a right to be satisfied with what He creates. So He has a right to determine what will be created. So, the created beings themselves, within themselves and among themselves, have a separate set of finite rules; none of which, can do for God. So, God invented the separation of church-and-state when He gave Moses the Law. [Mosaic Law is divided into three parts for this reason: Greek-inspired LXX divides the civil from the spiritual using three keywords: entole (10 Commandments), dikiomata (the spiritual code, separate), and krimata (civil jurisprudence). If you have access to a Bible search program, search these keywords, see for yourself how Bible uses them. Or, do it based on the Hebrew equivalents, but it will be easier to see the NT uses of the same keywords, if you use the Greek inspired MSS.] Here's why: as Supreme Judge, God's Choice alone matters; so His Choice should not be murdered by either creating some standard Caesar imposes (whether pro- or con- abortion), nor by people imposing their standards on other people. God Is Our Maker And Our Sovereign, not us.
So consider this: A Birth Means A Thinking Being Which Father Will Forever Hear. So can only be God's Choice, never ours, whether such a being should exist. Just as we should seek God's Choice in all things; just as God communicates His Will via Scripture so we can know God's Choice in all things by Learning Scripture via 1Jn1:9 and Word study under our right pastors; so also, here.
Satan understands, but we humans do not, God's Innate Love Of Truth. He wants Omnipotence to serve Truth, not gerrymander it: even common sense would tell you that if you SIN, God must prefer you have the freedom to sin, rather than zap you so you couldn't, duh. So many Bible verses on this fact, even translations can't cover it up. Note two of them: Gal5:1, and John 8:32. Then there's Ps89:14-15. God will allow anything free to happen, because freedom is the foundation for Truth. Since He is perfect, it cannot compromise Him. So, you can 'murder' His Choice. After all, He wants no one to go to hell, either ("not willing that any should perish" concept in John3, Rom5:8, 1 or 2 Pet3:9, 1Tim2).
So God's focus is not narrowly political, like ours. First, this issue is about what God Sees And Hears. Hearing thoughts that displease, or hearing thoughts that please. KJV calls this "sweet savor". Every being He decrees exist He must forever hear. He's always heard such beings from before we were born (big point David makes in Ps139), since He is Omniscient. But think: He had to choose, first. Not us. Only God has the right to choose who will be born because it's to Him that all this thinking will occur. Secondly, when we sin, we first sin against God, and whether we also are sinning against each other is of no consequence, for we ourselves deserve nothing. So God must get paid (Satisfied, aka "Propitiation") for that and on HIS Terms, never ours. So what we think is to GOD first; what we think for selves or others, deserves nothing. So for us to have the arrogance to dictate who shall be born, to control that by law in any way, is worse than murder. How evil we all are, to look at each other, and forget all about, God's Choice!
As covered at length in LordvSatan2.htm, another controlling judicial issue is our condemnation in Adam. No-soul-in-womb is a Divine Juridical Issue Relating To Adam's Sin, for sin is in the thinking (body just 'obeys' thought), hence sin is not pleasing; hence, God's separation from us due to it. Hence the need for a Savior. Hence the woman is punished by means of childbearing (Gen3:15-16 is mistranslated, except in Brenton's English). That way, the sinful flesh develops apart from God's involvement. Hence no soul in womb because then God would be juridically touching sinful flesh, so to speak. When the fetus exits the womb, a juridical issue is forced, because the fetus then is capable of an independent existence: at which point, God must juridically choose to "breath lives" into it (Gen2:7's pattern, Hebrew), or choose to stand off. If the latter choice, the fetus never became alive.
So the origin-of-life issue centers juridically on His Perfection, and Righteousness May Rule to Abort. Spontaneous abortions occur all the time, so God must have ordered them: so is God a murderer? Of course not. Likewise, Righteousness may teach a pregnant mother to get an abortion, so she can learn an application of Scripture -- which God authored. Shall we dare abort her learning? Or, maybe she will become a believer (be saved!) as a result of such learning. Shall we abort her freedom to learn something God wants? So, then: shall we mere humans override Righteousness and impose our wimpy ideas of righteousness on others? Of course not. Then we are the aborters of His Word. Which we are, for Exodus 21:22 very clearly says the fetus is not a legal person. That's why it wasn't a crime, that the guy who accidentally hit the woman, caused the miscarriage. It was only a crime if he hurt the woman herself (vv.23ff).
Our condemnation in Adam as the controlling reason why no soul life is in the womb, is negated via Bible mistranslation. You can prove this, if you've sufficient access to the original-language texts and some generic-Bible software program like BibleWorks. The 'allegation' (until you see it for yourself as fact) of Bible mistranslation was mentioned earlier, but here in this Third Criterion, its blasphemy must be covered as an 'interruption': for the rampant mistranslation proves why God separates from the biological process; proves that Satan &Co. are behind the prolife/prochoice question.
Nice of God to allow blasphemy to teach us His Truth, huh... Once you see how the translations are mangled, you will understand Satan&Co. mess with translators so false doctrine can be innocently taught and believed: this is a major theme of my websites (with plenty of empirical proof you can test). See, since we've now had the original-inspired-language manuscripts in our public possession for over a century, our disinterest in God is more obvious, which is why Satan&Co. get to mess with us ("strong delusion" doctrine). That I could find the egregious mistranslations in BibleWorks, a non-sectarian collection of Bible MSS. and translations in many languages (plus typical lexicons), is a stunning indictment of our bad scholarship in Christendom. My pastor has taught no-life-in-womb for decades, but I'm only using BibleWorks for this Caveat, (i.e., as if I'd never heard him teach).
As the "No Womb Life" link explains in more detail, English Bibles reverse-translate nearly all verses which in the original-languages show there is no soul in the womb. It's a concerted effort, beginning with the first mistranslation in the very first announcement of no-life-in-womb, Gen3:16: only Brenton's translation gets it right. (You have to see the other translations compared to the original, to believe the egregious adding to the Word the other translations make.) The easiest verses to see reverse-translated, are those verses that have prepositions whose object is "womb".
BibleWorks software says there are 56 verses (in English Bible versions) in the OT with "womb" in them. Every one is reverse-translated. New Living Translation actually puts into Bible the term "womb" when it's not there (i.e., in Job 10:10). It is by no means the black sheep of the English translation family: they all are bad. Job 31:15, for example, uses Hebrew "asah" twice to distinguish that Job didn't become Job until outside the womb (Hebrew wouldn't need the second asah, else: it is a very strong statement that God didn't make anything in the womb -- English doesn't even translate the second asah). [New American Standard tried to translate the second asah, but its translation clearly makes no sense. When Bible's Hebrew doubles verbs (or clauses), it's always making a distinction between two disparate but related actions (or ideas).]
Occasionally a brave NIV translator will properly translate a "womb" verse, i.e., in Luke 1:15 ("from birth"). Yet keep MIStranslating the same original language words, with the reverse meaning, "in the womb", or "from the womb" in other verses. TrÈs bizarre. The other languages I can read often do the same. (Louis Segond will show more accuracy bravery, "des ta naissance", from your birth, Isa44:2. German "von" isn't really like the English "from", so I'm not sure if the German is mistranslated.) After all, it's supposed to be about God's Word, not politics.
Ps139:13-16 is partly exegeted in the "No Womb Life" link so you can see it for yourself: you don't need too much fancy Bible software, either, to confirm the meaning your way, independent of 'me'. Passage in the original languages uses a blow-by-blow explanation of why no life is in womb, to express awe that God would 'conceive'/decree our births, despite His Foreknowledge of our live sins. It's a Messianic passage, so couldn't be more important, to get 'right'. (Now you know why that other verse David wrote about being 'conceived in sin', means the sin nature. So, he shouldn't have been born.)
In sum: The God-breathed, original-language manuscripts flatly contradict the translations: you can prove how, word by word. You can prove the original-language manuscripts of Bible consistently say no soul is in the womb. You can prove how it blasphemes God Himself to claim soul life in the womb. Finally, you can prove that salvation wouldn't juridically work had a soul ever been within a womb. The "No Womb Life" link provides more details to back up this paragraph's seeming-assertions.
Saddest of all, as you peruse "abortion" links via Google or other search engine, you see an appalling lack of reference to the original languages. Since Bible translations in "womb" verses LIE against Holy Writ -- to spread translations, is to reject God Himself. The abortion links I could find that even had snippets from the original-language texts, wouldn't even pass first-year seminary in Biblical hermeneutics.
As we saw in the First Criterion, God must breathe into a thing/person, for it to even become alive. But for Our-God-Who-Loves-Justice (Ps89:14-15, Ps32:5, Ps139:16-17), that is a Justice issue: how is it JUST, to breathe into? Hence the 2nd Criterion, God's Own Satisfaction, recorded in Isa53:10-11 (see Isa53trans.htm or the shorter Isa53.htm, as Bibles don't translate the verses fully): will Righteousness be satisfied if this thing/person is made? See? It's a lot bigger question, than we 'Christians' imagine, since we are dead-to-God, 1Jn1:9 not being used to get His Brains to teach us about the real meaning of what's 'prolife'...
CRUX: So God Holiness won't 'touch' the sin-in-Adam fetus until it exits the womb, because only @exit is there an INDEPENDENT entity requiring jurisprudence: condemnation with Adam's Original Sin (i.e., 1Cor15:22, Jas1:13-15). If and only if He makes that condemnation, will God choose to "breathe" a soul into it, which makes it human, and thus immediately save-able! Christ died for all sins, including Adam's, see: is Our God brilliant, or what?! [By the way, if you are under my pastor, his term "point of contact" in the year 2000+ lessons (series 376, Spiritual Dynamics) tie in here, though this Caveat 4 was originally written not knowing that information.]
Note God's Grace: if we are not born condemned, the Cross couldn't occur. If not born condemned, then all those lives who die early -- because in freedom, bad health -- all those who died too young get automatically saved. If not born condemned, we'd have no way of learning Love, because clearly if we can be born condemned, our puny natures don't interfere with God's Love: He doesn't love us due to what we are and can do -- He just plain loves us. All this, we immediately and conclusively know, solely because the woman is punished with childbearing. Like Paul quipped somewhere in Timothy (2Tim2:15?) to show how grace works, the woman will be delivered (sozo, usu. mistranslated "saved") by delivery (childbearing). So too, all mankind! What a Gorgeous God we get to know.
All other creating/making verbs in the original languages, are for inanimate or non-souled biological 'life' (i.e., animals): this is but one major category of what the translations, obscure. For example, "knitted" is only used for cloth, clouds, or other nonliving material. So when David uses those types of verbs in Ps139, you can't mistake a claim of no soul life in a womb. Check out this claim for yourself, in the "No Womb Life" link.
Cardinal principle of hermeneutics (Bible Interpretation) is that you compare Scripture with Scripture. Especially, starting with the foundation on which a doctrine is based (i.e., God's Attributes). Especially, in the original languages. Another Cardinal rule of translation is that you don't impose the language conventions of the translation language on the original. But this prohibited imposition is frequently done in translations. So it's not poetic Hebrew/Greek to misconstrue inanimate creating verbs for animate ones, since Bible only uses one type of verb to denote immateriality: breathing/breath/spirit -- get it? [Dingdongs use English poetry rules to justify treating the Hebrew qanah as "create" -- which it never means anywhere in Bible: do the search yourself. (Hint: Hebrew's related to Decree, salvation, ransom, redemption, not creation.)]
From what I can find on the web, those who purport to exegete the Hebrew to support pro-life positions don't do their homework: although they should, they don't compare Scripture's uses of its keywords, pan-Bible.
Stated more humorously: the prolifers are right in the "pro", and the pro-choicers are right in the "choice". But both sides left out "God". So, the 'sum', the correct answer, is: Be Pro God's Choice. Leave Caesar Out Of It.
Rebekah consulted God about her tumultuous pregnancy, see; so anyone else should consult GOD, not Caesar.Now, let's return to the Second Criterion, What God Hears and Sees is the Juridical Basis for any Choice He makes, viz., about who will be born.. or, aborted. What follows will seem to go way off-topic for awhile, in order to weave in what is God's Choice panoramically. Gotta see the big picture, before you can fit together the puzzle pieces: for, if a doctrine is correctly stated, all the pieces will fit together at all levels. Else, an error is present, somewhere. Important: the Bible makes literally hundreds of often deft-and-quick analogies to the deadness of pregnancy versus the liveness of birth to illustrate things like live versus dead works and other spiritual life doctrines. So those who misinterpret Scripture to construe life is in the womb, will misinterpret doctrines vital to their spiritual lives. Hence this big-picture 'digression' is important to cover. [All my sites elaborate on what follows. Goal here is to provide but a quick summary, so just test the doctrinal logic as best you can or as much as you're inclined. This is a huge topic to condense accurately, so it might be hard to follow, here.]
Let's start analysing this question at its simplest level. What is God's Choice about our relationship with Him? Well, as we just saw with Rebekah, His Policy is always the same: "Ask Me." Of course, you don't ask Someone you don't first believe in, get it? See 2Chron 7:14, a prayer every Christian should pray as a good citizen of his home country. (NT counterparts are exemplified in 1Tim2, Rom13.) Of course, if the person thinks "Me" is a counterfeit god-name or person, then no real "Me" gets the request. Because, any "Me" but the Real God, is dead. Sterile. Stillborn. See Isa44. For, Satan rules this world; so apart from being properly asked for His Involvement, God stands off. Because, sin is in the world, and Holiness can't justify 'touching' it without Juridical Cause. So, no one gets blessed who is negative, unless someone else asked for it, propitiated Father in some way (i.e., the Cross!); or, some other juridical basis exists, i.e., a wicked person maybe prospers because a righteous person needs it; just as we prosper because Christ chose to 'need' us -- see also Ps37, end of Jonah.
Now we all know God's Choice is that all be saved; we equally know that not all get saved, because not all believe. Notice how "ask" and "believe" mean the person is positive to God. So, that's a relationship issue, not a religious one. Do you want God, or not? Maximum wanting of God, of course, is maximum intimacy. So, like marriage. So, like childbearing due to marriage (wanting to share progeny with your spouse). So, the inspired Hebrew and Greek text of Isa53 liken the Cross to a pregnancy in order to birth sons-of-God (see also Heb2, Galatians, and Isa53.htm). You won't see the Isaiah53 wordplay in translation, but you can see Isa54:1 is about childbirth (it's a climactic statement). (Isa53trans.htm retranslates the whole chapter (which starts in 52:13) so you can more clearly prove out what's said here.)
For, Cross propitiates, so justifies Divine juridical involvement. But, as you know, the individual must believe in Christ to be saved: that's another way of illustrating that God chooses to wait for us to ask (i.e., "seek" verses).
Hence post-salvation, the "asking" is to Learn Scripture. So, as the Lord repeatedly explains in the Gospels, believers are to be "salt" as part of Christ. Preserving our eaten food (Bible, food metaphor like in Matt4:4). We are a crop to grow up and be harvested. Note how, in either case, a process is depicted which must complete in order to be born/effective. You don't get nourishment by merely conceiving the food, you must eat it completely. You don't harvest a crop that isn't ripe, either....
So if we aren't eating, we are "saltless", for the salt is preserving nothing; we're not asking to know God, we're not interested in God, so we're a curse to our home countries, not a blessing. Likewise, if we are not using 1Jn1:9 (see its context) we are also saltless, for it takes the Spirit's power to spiritually breathe. So, Father likes hearing us eat His Son's Thinking (Bible), so can justify 'spending' His Pleasure on the world around us. For our sake, and theirs. Just as the fetus has to exit for a judicial issue to exist, so also a birth/breathing spiritually justifies the refreshing breeze of Divine Blessing. Greek word for "spirit" also means "wind", see. Wind is the reason for all climate, good or bad, and accounts for why a given area may be balmy, but its next-door neighbor, buried in snow. Stopping the wind kills this Earth more quickly than any bomb can: much of what goes wrong in the Tribulation is due to how the wind behaves: especially, if it stops. So too, for Divine Blessing's 'breezes'. Angels control these winds, i.e., in Rev7:1. So weather is not random. Blessing is never random.
Do you see the parallel? Choice is always involved with some type of 'birth', by Divine Design: choice to believe in Christ, choice to learn Him via Scripture. God doesn't coerce choice, and instead wants us to ask Him: "seek and ye shall find", not "I force you to find." Note also how blessing depends on choice as well: here, to those not choosing to know Him, because we are learning Him, even as we didn't choose for Christ to go to the Cross, but He chose that (see 2Pet2 on this topic, esp. v.21 in the Greek). So, our choices affect the well-being of the entire planet ("salt", "remnant" verses). Clearly if God won't coerce, we shouldn't either.
Bigger still, our choices affect our own growth for all eternity. For, God's Idea of "prolife" and "pro-choice" is to make us a lot like His Son (main theme in Romans, Ephesians, Colossians, Galatians). God can indeed do this at the Level of His Son: that Heb2 verse, He is not ashamed to call us brothers, isn't merely nice talk, say-awww-here: but, be awed here! We all underestimate His Power in the name of being 'humble'! So we forget the common-sense conclusion that God wouldn't like living with 'lower-thans', forever! Only the Bible's God is structured so that juridical compensation DUE is paid. For, if God is not fair to Himself, He wouldn't be able to be fair to anyone else. Hence, the Trinity Corporation, so that salvation can be juridically independent. (Greek of 2Cor 13:14 displays a voluntary Corporation of Three Gods, forget all those councils: Bible is infallible. DueDisclosure.htm has much more on this topic.) For the same reason, His Goal is to make us like The Most High, for highest compatibility with The Most High. (This is a major theme in all my websites, and "Thinking" series plus DueDisclosure.htm have the most documentation on why Trinity, apart from the salvation issue. Clearly They aren't God solely for the sake of providing salvation, lol!)
For, Christ Himself was thus Built, In The Truth; thus He Became "The Way, The Truth, and the Life". Became, in His Humanity, not merely had the Truth in Him! Christ was held together on the Cross by the Truth He Knew; He paid for our sins with His mastery of that truth (Isa53:10-11, Phili2:5-10, Heb12:2, other passages). [Isa53:10-11 in translation misses some of the God-breathed text. See Isa53.htm for the full text. See Isa53trans.htm for the full chapter, since the first principle of hermeneutics (fancy word for 'finding' Bible's Own Interpretation of Itself) is that you analyze Scripture IN context.] Sins are "true" in that they are real. So, Truth applied to truth, and we become the Righteousness of God IN HIM. So, the Same Structural Integrity is to be built in us, with the same Total Love results (2Cor5:21, esp. in context from v.14, Rom5-8, 1Cor13, etc). Since it took even Him 30 years to become 'built' enough, obviously for us this is a lifetime process. Requiring second-after-second of discrete consents.
His Son's Thinking must therefore be poured into us (e.g., Rom5:5, "Love" being the Water of the Word); and we don't get that Thinking until a) saved, and b) pursuing learning Him. Only via this method do we grow spiritually. That growth requires the Holy Spirit's Power, hence the need to breathe 1Jn1:9. Not only is our own ability totally insufficient; but Christ radically upended the spiritual life, not using even His Own Power, but rather the Spirit's. Meaning, the Mosaic system, which did employ human power, is obsolete (e.g., per Heb7:18).
Truth is not merely a collection of facts: that's just the 'truth' portion of Omniscience. Instead, Truth is a Reproducing Structure, more like a building, a complete organism, like math: relationship-formulas that always work, yet are infinitely changeable, depending on the applicable parameters. Of course, God is Truth, and thus Truth is Living, not a dry collection of laws. So, God wants us to get that Truth in us, so we will think as His Son does.
As for the reproducing-structure nature of truth, you can prove that fact right now. You are reading these words. They stay on the page. Yet, have reproduced in your head. So the "truth" reproduced in your head, since the 'truth' is, these words exist, and were reproduced from a different head than your own. Thought is immaterial. God is Immaterial. Hence, innately reproducing. Infinity, as my pastor likes to repeat, is intensive, not extensive. So God can replicate His Own Thinking without mass/energy, spacetime, loss, etc. Living, Thinking. Not some animistic depersonalized 'force'. In us! Through Christ!
Development of the Truth in us thus has a developmental effect on volition. This is why we still have free will after we die, yet never again sin. It's not magic, but learning. That one dot of truth, the Gospel being believed, is like an embryo with respect to this grander purpose: it sets the floor on never sinning post-death. Heh: belief Christ paid for all your sins births you spiritually even while down here; but immediately that spiritual birth sets up another pregnancy: the potential to become Pleroma (sotto voce theme of Romans 8, 1Cor3, 12-13). Like Paul explains in all his letters, the goal post-salvation is to get this structure of Christ's Own Thinking built atop that salvation (i.e., Eph3:15-19) so you stop being a "child" (Gk:teknon) and instead become teleios, "mature". Or, using his other frequent analogy, 'growing' the embryonic salvation into a fully mature 'childbearing' spiritual adult. [See 1Cor14:20 & Gal4:19's pregnancy metaphor; Rom12:2, Eph4:13, Phili3:15ff Col1:28, Jas 1:4 vs. Heb5:11ff and Eph4:17ff] For, we will all variantly choose to learn Him, so the high thinking among the child bearers ("Pleroma", in Bible's Greek) thus synergizes with all those who did not grow up down here; to make an eternal 'economy', a polity. In short, kingdoms. Forever producing thinking Father loves to hear, as any Royal Priest is supposed to do, heh. What a future!
So in the original languages (but not translations), Bible is forever making analogies to our post-salvation life by recourse to sexual/ marital/ maturation metaphors, to show the bonding is a process which must COMPLETE. In fact, because there's so much stress on the process, many people misread Scripture and think you can lose salvation, or go to purgatory.. or whatever. This misreading is even more pronounced, if you are not Filled with the Spirit (continual use of 1Jn1:9); even more, if using a translation, as well. Hence pulpits but not Bible, stress body-works; Bible stresses learning Him as the "work" which doesn't get burned up at the Bema (1Cor3, Rev4:1). People twist Bible to stress what man does, rather than what God does; what man wants, rather than what God wants. So, people end up spiritually sterile. Fruitless wombs, all. Spiritual abortions. (Paul makes this very analogy in Romans, Galatians, Corinthians; as did the Lord, in His parables; but of course you won't find it easily in the English. It's a big topic, not to abort yourself from God.)
We're not here to whitewash the devil's world. Instead, we are all here to get 'pregnant' with Doctrine: that's what "Pleroma" means. That Greek word, usu. translated fill or fulfill, really has a very heavy pregnancy connotation in Greek lit., which Bible frequently uses as wordplay: Greek myths were always about gods begetting with humans. So to be "Pleroma" meant pregnant with a god's child, or pregnant with the god's thinking. That's why the phallic cult was so popular. God, Who has the Best Sense of Humor, uses this fact often to teach His Plan for us. So, Bible uses this term in wordplay for pregnancy, i.e., all over Romans 8. So, another Greek word, "teleiow" (usu. translated end, finish, but really means to complete, or perfect a contract) is used to denote the Completion of Pleroma: so you can bear spiritual children in the Mill and Eternal State. All this, as propitiation for Father, to hear such high levels of Son's Thinking.
Result of God's Begetting His Son's Thinking in you? Infinite-Quality Truth Is Supposed To Cycle within your soul: the Word of God is Alive And Powerful, not a catechism. "Love Table" link explains this purpose in much more detail, as does the first four bullets in "Divine Physics" link. Basically, the purpose is to reproduce God's Own Thinking Structure of Will+Truth. What we call His "Attributes" are characteristics of Will+Truth, Living. Thoughts all connect in some way. "But My ways are not your ways, nor My Thoughts your thoughts", He says in Isa55. So, the Son paid for sins and -- more importantly, left us His Thinking as our spiritual legacy (John 7:39, 1Cor2,6,12,13, Romans 8; 2Pet2:2-21, Heb4 tied to Isa53:10-12, Heb8:8-12 compared to Heb10:15-17 in Greek; all "Christ in you" verses, to name a few). So the objective is to have that structure complete. Until it's complete, some 'DNA' is missing, get it?
See, God's Choice is for you to really be as high as He is, to think of self and others and things the same way as He does; because, that Same Way, is most compatible to His Own. Which highest-compatibility Christ prayed for via the "oneness" (sexual metaphor, really), in John 17.
Ergo, as is always true even in all secular things, a type of HUPOSTATIC relationship is created by this developing Living Truth Scripture Structure, bonding with your will; for, you must want to learn and live on His Thinking every second (Holy Spirit will never coerce). Christ is God-man. We are to be united to Him as "Body", "Bride". Those aren't just cute words to make us feel good. They are structural metaphors. So, we are to be transformed (the true, as opposed to chippie evolutionist, "transmutation"). To have His structure in our souls. Therefore, it doesn't matter what we are now, but what we are to BECOME; therefore, sins, etc. don't matter -- they are but training aids.
Therefore, it doesn't matter that we are finite, because the Infinity can progressively cycle inside the structure: it reaches full operational capacity, once the structure is completed. From what I can tell, sometime during the "Evidence Tests" (my pastor's term for the last growth stage of our Royal Spiritual Life) this structural completion occurs. Then it operates (kinda like a steel mill) at full capacity for a short time (i.e., in the Lord who authored this system, three years), then.. Tetelestai, Victory finishes, and God takes you home. That's how Christ in His Humanity Became the Truth, Righteousness, etc.; which He had to BECOME, to have the requisite strength to think Truth in 'reply' to our sins while ON the Cross. Remember, He ran the universe from His Humanity (a fact my pastor stresses, whenever he reviews the nature of His Hypostatic Union). Why do you think Satan tempted Him to use His Own Deity, in Matt4? [LordvSatan3 and ~4.htm explore this topic with much documentation and accounting. DueDisclosure.htm is a shorter explanation, and as to the judicial issues, is even better. Paradox.htm covers the Angelic Trial whys so you can see what underlies the judicial issues, and DDNA.htm covers the 'spiritual genetics' of it (for lack of a better term, since the way Truth transmutes you, happens the same way RNA-DNA interactions work).]
So, we need to learn and then live on Bible Doctrine. Holy Spirit thus runs the show, and the entire process is very much like a developing fetus. Which comes to birth, so to speak, in the eternal state (theme of last half of Romans 8). So if all the parts to this structure don't finish being made, the believer ABORTS his inheritance (but retains salvation), because
So, think: developing fetal body parts can't get Bible Doctrine, can't choose Gospel, so it's outright stupid and counter-productive to God's Choice that a human soul ever be in the womb. The necessary body-soul interaction can't occur. So, even if you only knew God's Choice for us from birth onward, a Choice which frankly even common sense can deduce (God is thought, has no body needs, so we need to develop our thinking), you would conclusively know that He never puts a soul in a womb. There would BE no Christ, else.
So, think: developing fetal body parts can't get Bible Doctrine, can't choose Gospel, so it's outright evil evil evil to remove God's Choice about whether a fetus should come to term. If you put the choice in Caesar's hand, you've murdered God's Choice about how much sweet savor thinking He wants. If you put the choice in your own hand, you've also murdered God's Choice.
Remember the 2nd Right-to-Life Criterion? God Hears The Thinking of any soul He makes. So He, not us, should be the Only One to dictate how He wants any pregnancy handled. Since He makes His Choice clear in Scripture, nothing outside of Scripture has any overriding authority. So Leave Caesar Out Of It. Read Matt7:1-2 before involving yourself in activism.
Frankly, Satan uses activism to get Christians judged. "Angelic Trial" link at pagetop goes over that topic in excruciating detail. "Satan's System" link is a long webpage, but its "prolife" section shows how Satan fools prolifers and aborts their spiritual lives. Every website has something on this topic, for it is the quintessential satanic expression of his Rev17 harlot. Bubonic plague is less deadly, than Christian activism. Christian activism is the scariest thing in this world, period.
There's no pain in heaven, aside from the Bema Day (Rev4:1, 1Cor3, etc). But on that Day, we will clearly see the differential between the horror-knowledge of how stupid we were, and the happiness-knowledge of how Gorgeous God is. We ourselves will demand the justice of distance from Him, physically: sorta like those demons who went bonko when Christ came near them (i.e., Matt8:29ff). You know how you feel facing someone close when you've done a really bad thing of which you are completely aware: how much more, once you have perfect awareness? So, our own senses of accurate Justice will then be perfectly acute; so we wouldn't want too much proximity to Him, on the very grounds of Justice; since irrevocably saved, we'll yearn to be sent to the then-equivalent distance of Pluto, for crying out loud. So will be relieved at our Bema evaluation, due to what we will then forever know of our own evils against Him.
So here's my error: I haven't noted a) how globally VAST was this satanic orchestration within the 1880-1950 voting window (the 490 ended in 1990); and b) my webpages give my erroneous impression that Jews just plain wanted to go there -- not true. More often, Jews were FORCED to go there as the only alternative to the horrific pogroms they were experiencing in exile. This satanic forcing is worldwide from the late 1800's, and it's easy to see historically: but I haven't adequately reflected the FORCING nature of it UPON the Jews. So Jews WERE still listening to Ezekiel and Jeremiah, trying to stay away from Jerusalem, though ardently wanting to return. So long as the Land was not a government of its own, they would heed the warning, and stay away. But circumstances FORCED them to NEED a place to go, and we who loved them, wanted to find a POLITICAL entity which they could control, so they could be safe. So we thought. Satan outmaneuvered us all. So: that forcing-ness needs to be reflected in my webpages, but right now is missing.
This forcing nature is extremely important. Central to the Angelic Trial is whether you wait on God, or you try to do something yourself (i.e., use works to claim you are righteous before God is doing something oneself). So it's vital to learn whether the Jews themselves were the primary impetus for the return (which of course Arab Islam stridently asserts); or, whether this return is imposed on them. If the latter, it's the common Bible historical theme of man intends one thing, But God Works All Things Together (i.e., what Joseph said to his brothers when he revealed himself, what Paul says in Rom 8:28 and Chapter 11). As is, my webpages sketch the satanic orchestration, but (my error) it also seemed they themselves fostered the return to the Land. No: they were satanically 'helped' by their enemies and friends. God's warning to stay away, then, was heeded. So Blessing from God, which He unconditionally promised anyway (Gen12:3-5), is even higher, because they listened, they waited, and stayed away (Jer29, Lam3:23-24, and root idea behind 2Chron 7:14). The pogroms became too great, and they were forced to find a place of refuge: that place was primarily proposed by the British and the UN, not by the Jews themselves.
Pogroms in the ARAB world were far more significant than even those in Europe and Russia, at this time. The convergence of pogroms in those areas from the mid 1800's onward, pushed the Jews out via pogrom or outright expulsion. Same worldwide phenomenon can be observed during the initial spread of Islam, from the 600's-800's AD, and during the Crusades; but by the late 1800's, the herding had begun to focus on Israel proper, since Israel at that time was largely unpopulated owing to the extensive pillaging criminality of the Bedouin who preyed all over the Land. In short, there was no other largely-uninhabited area, to which Jews could escape. And this, the British promoted to the Sultan of Turkey, in the name of economically benefitting him, since most of that land ("miri"), he owned. The Porte agreed, issuing an edict in 1856 allowing both Jewish immigration and their ability to buy land, 40 years before Herzl, and 60 years before Balfour. So there were no "Palestinian" Arabs on the land, back then.
So God will defend the Jews, all the more: they are being falsely accused, they were being pogromized by Europeans, Russians, and Arabs alike, and they were 'helped' not by themselves, but by those very persecuters, to go to the Land. No human conspiracy can be so competent, sorry. This is a satanic thing. And we humans who meant well for Israel, had no alternative, either.
Understand, that in political terms there has always been a Jewish presence in the Land; that they bought the land from Muslims, so legally have a right to it; that the so-called "Palestinians" (a term originally only used to describe the Jews, which the Arabs usurped after 1948) -- these Arabs NEVER had a right to the Land, and in fact didn't want it until the Jews came in large enough numbers OUT FROM (mostly) Arab countries which pogromized them. Understand that the Porte (Ottoman Sultan) supported the Jews being there, especially since it economically benefitted from such support. Furthermore, the Land was won in conquest five times: WWI and WWII, then of course 1948, 1967, and 1973. So the Jews paid for the Land in both money and sweat equity/blood, which no international body can dispute: the law of conquest and payment is as old as law, itself.
So the entire "Palestinian state" question is an utter lie, promulgated upon the ignorant; to unite the Arabs whose only interest is to destroy the Jews. Even, among the "moderates" in the region. PLO Charter's FIRST Article is, "Israel has no right to exist." President Bush conditioned the roadmap on the removal of that Article in the Charter. Similarly, other Arab groups and states support that First Article stridently and viciously (Saudi Arabia being the most subtle among them). So don't be fooled: God will protect Israel against those who hate her, wherever she is. And now, she is in the midst of her enemies. From Time Immemorial.
Therefore, you'll even see me use some of the same terminology in my websites as he uses in the post-1999 Bible classes: that's a coincidence (well, not to the Holy Spirit, lol). Again, I DID NOT KNOW the information in those classes. At most I heard the term "reciprocity" in passing when I took a break from the regular study after 9/11, and got some of his tapes to see his interp of that horrible event. But I did NOT have the back up for its usage. So please: if you are supposed to be reading 'my' stuff collaterally, keep on asking Father for WHAT you are supposed to get from the material.
So, as a result of my pastor's updates on +L=+I and mutual flanks, part of me just wants to pitch ALL these websites and start over. But I don't have time to fix/update the sites for these things; I was, however, able to independently research and hence write DDNA.htm, the "Doctrinal DNA!" link at pagetop. [My pastor doesn't quite call Bible Doctrine in your head "DDNA", but he sure seems to come close, circa L.1690's onward.] It's the longest of my websites, so download it onto floppy/CD, and then copy to your hard drive for easier (offline) reading. DDNA.htm is about 1MG. I didn't yet update the 2nd Aspect of DDNA.htm for the Falaise Gap information in this #2. It will be months before I can do so: Lessons 1170+ of (Series 376) 1992 Spiritual Dynamics, actually began with this +L=+I topic!
So to the extent you should read any of 'my' stuff, the Holy Spirit will point out what needs more fine-tuning to fit what our mutual pastor teaches. The HS constantly refines for me (and for anyone who breathes 1Jn1:9 and lives in God's System), which is why DDNA.htm got written: it ANALYZES how LOVE=INTEGRITY gets built in the believer, based especially on the never-translated Isa53:11 in the LXX. I haven't heard my pastor yet mention that verse in connection with his "Love IS the Integrity of God!" statement, but virtually EVERYTHING I've ever heard him teach for 33 years is reflected in that verse's five sweeping Greek infinitives (start at the end of v.10 in the Greek, they messed up verse division). Parallel verse is 1Jn4:19, same Attic Drama. I can't find a SINGLE SCHOLAR who focuses on the importance of Isa53:11 in the LXX. The better lexicons even pooh-pooh the verse as unBiblical (i.e., Bauer Danker), due to the usage of dative and accusative of autos in that verse (yeah, if you are in BIBLICAL GREEK KINDERGARTEN -- but God is rather more advanced in His use of dative and accusative).
In short, much guesswork has to be done: question is, can you trust the scientist's assumptions? Well, it's hard to do that, since so many of their assumptions are based on a TOTALLY SCREWY idea that apes can become human over long periods of geologic time. NO AMOUNT of time overrides the fact that no set can contain itself, and if the scientist doesn't see that, what else is he missing in his evaluation? Example: if the mutations occurred far FASTER than is assumed -- and Bible treats the mutations occurring MUCH faster and in EACH of the children differently; which is why, for example, Cain could marry his sister and not have stunted progeny -- then the TIMELINE of these truly-souled humans, is far shorter than science assumes. Like, maybe only 6-10K years back, NOT 50K+ years. But if the scientist is stuck on this goofy idea we came from apes, he won't GO LOOKING to revise the premise about the rate of mutation. Religion always refuses to re-evaluate its premises; evolution is a RELIGION, not at all a science. First law of math, no set can contain itself -- THAT's true science. Not subject to human judgement, math.
Still, the genetic trace-back is a FAR better scientific approach than carbon dating. Now if only they can remember the first law of math -- for who can trust their assumptions, when they can't even get the fundamental law of math correct? Anthropology is fascinating, but it's hard to have faith in the evolution thingy since the scientists who believe in it and teach it, consistently IGNORE the first law of math (no set can contain itself), so apes cannot POSSIBLY be the ancestors of humankind. I'd respect evolution theory once they respect the first law of math. Again, Evolshort.htm goes into this topic in more detail.
A LOT OF BIBLE DOCTRINE IS MISSED by not understanding Gen4:7. First, it's clear from Cain onward that to "acquire" salvation, you hevel/Abel -- do nothing. [Hevel means nothingness, vanity, empty. LXX transliterates this as Abel. Should be a rough breathing over the "A", and it's VERY short.] Just believe in Christ. You are unable to do anything, see, so stop trying to "acquire", gain/Cain, what you cannot and NEED NOT do. (Gen 4:1 qayin=spear, but it's a sexual euphemism, and is a play on qanah, to acquire (redeem, ransom, purchase) = Cain. I REALLY wish the names of people in the Bible were easily found in the lexicons. It matters a LOT to know what those names mean. Much Bible Doctrine is wittily and deftly communicated thereby.)
Second, it's clear that those who DON'T LIKE the Gospel are JEALOUS and want to murder it. So, the future tussle between the Arabs and the Jews is forecast, since the RIGHT OF FIRSTBORN (see also Heb12, toward the end) depends on FAITH, not works. See also Romans 9. So the entire BATTLE between the murdering works, vs. LIFE-GIVING faith method of salvation, is sourced here in Gen4:7. Do you realize, all religion, including 99% of Christianity, has been claiming the murdering version for centuries? Which could have been avoided from 4:7 onward; but because a HEBREW LETTER is missed in 4:7 (the het looks a lot like the tau, when written): the whole verse's import is messed up. Oh, Satan's not stupid: you only have to be a little tired in reading, to miss a whole meaning.
It's true that an underlayer of all-or-nothing choice (believe in Christ or sin will eat you alive) is given as well: but 4:7 should first be considered a GOSPEL ASSURANCE verse of astounding beauty: it's only secondarily a warning about the foreknown sin of murder. (L.40-48 Gen75 tapes exegete 4:4-15, and importantly impact understanding.) Also, looks like the LXX is bypassed (again, sigh) in translation, which is a pity: the LXX offers important added information, esp. in Gen 4. The BHS and LXX should be AMALGAMATED in translation, where the texts seem to 'differ'. It's not a contradiction between both inspired texts, it's ADDED INFORMATION. Book of Hebrews thus plays on Gen4, throughout its text, and it's clearly looking at what (we know as) both LXX and BHS, verses, especially in Hebrews 4 and 1l, since Abel's offering the lamb CONTRACT RECOGNITION, is PRECEDENCE.
So Cain WAS NOT a believer at least at the time he killed Abel (Hevel). Maybe before he died himself later on, he became one, I don't know.
Third (post-Gen4:7): Cain's NEGATIVE REACTION against God spawned a countergod, family and city and culture. To replace God. Idea of gOOd, instead of God, which of course is why Satan rebelled. Hence the inherent tyranny-urges of herding (must fit in) are entirely satanic, not of God at all. Yes, God invented family and nation, but as institutions to develop and preserve freedom: NO right to impose its values on its adult members, but rather a de minimis level of rules so that its members are FREE to determine their own values. Children must obey parents; but once grown, IF NO LONGER LIVING AT HOME, no longer under that obligation. Same, in a polity. If you agree to live there, you agree to the rules. Else, leave. Polity has no right to impose on you, except to the extent you agree (manifested, if you live there). Same, with culture (which has NO inherent rights; whereas, a polity, does).
God's rule of society is SELF-DETERMINATION; Satan's rule by contrast, is EXTERNAL-determination. So, heh: just because it's family or nation, doesn't mean you should stay 'in'. God is first.
Therefore any family pressuring, cultural pressuring, and political acvitism in the name of family, is ipse evil, of Cain, and therefore MURDERING. Murdering of love, murdering of freedom, murdering of the relationships. The tyrannical overemphasis (prime characteristic of satanic involvement) naturally leads to rebellion, which is also evil. So, the rampant evil in human history is the 'good' claimed in it; near-white, so MORE evil than darker shades. Someday a separate webpage needs to be made on these Cain-related topics, but I've no time.
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